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Broadleaf Evergreen leaf droop in cold.......

Post by TimMAz6 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:03 pm

A couple photos of BLEs in cold temps.

Illicium
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Aucuba japonica.....not too bad, it seems to droop more when younger
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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:04 pm

The Illicium looked pretty bad during that cold blast.............it will be interesting to see if it rebounds? The coldest day was High 13F Low -0.9F.

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Post by DesertZone » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:14 pm

I hope it does, is the yellow spots from the cold?
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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:24 pm

not sure what those spots are............I walked by the Illicium quickly this morning and it looked better but we've been below freezing for 8 days straight now..........tomorrow will be above freezing so I'll find out soon.
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Post by Paul Ont » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:35 am

They certainly look like nectrotic spots. Let us know if those leaves regain their colour!

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Post by TimMAz6 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:12 am

I looked at the Illicium leaves this morning and they look much better........80% of those spots were gone. Tomorrow is suppose to hit 50F so I'll take a photo tomorrow when it heats up......if those spots are damaged they may show up in a few weeks??
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Post by andym » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:08 am

Those leaves look in a sorry state. I think that where the colour has turned brown is beyond recovery. The plant will recover but there may be some holes in the leaves later on. I'm still befuddled by the fact that you can grow these plants in a 6B climate. Must be those green fingers you possess Tim :lol:
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Post by TimMAz6 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:54 pm

The Illicium looks pretty good today.
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I think this was the branch that had the leaf spots:
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:28 pm

So the spots are gone! :D

A little chlorotic now?

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:59 pm

Nice comparison shots, Tim!
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Post by TimMAz6 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:45 am

the snows made that branch fall down..........I didn't see any breakage.............I guess I'll tie it back up............not sure why it's more yellow than the other branches?? :?
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Post by lucky1 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:08 pm

That branch may have been a bit more tender going into the Fall.

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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:15 am

Looks like my rhodies Tim. Even my PJM leaves are curled and droopy. I will say, my holly shrub is alive, just a few burnt leaves from what I can see. Didnt think that would make it up here.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:16 pm

nice to hear a holly shrub can survive in your area. Is this it's first winter outside? If so next season it should be even hardier! :wink:
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Post by canadianplant » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:07 am

Yup, first winter. Im pretty sure its "blue prince/princess", so its supposed to be hardy to around -30C (which i what the low was). Even if it dies back a bit youre right, it will be way hardier next year!
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:45 am

When people here talk about BLEs, I'm always surprised no-one mentions Euonymous.

Here's my variegated euonymous, after deer had been chewing on it all winter.
Not a great photo, but you get the idea.

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Absolutely bulletproof in cold.

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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:11 am

Yes, it's a beautiful plant! I have a few varieties growing well in my zone. I like the wild variety very much. It is robust, very fast rowing and never loosing the leaves no matter how low a winter temperature is...
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:00 pm

Yes, Igor, and they provide a nice contrast to evergreens.

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Post by andym » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:54 pm

I have Euonymus Alatus which puts on my only dislay of Autumn colour :oops:
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:58 pm

So yours isn't evergreen, Andy?
Or was it simply hit with some unexpected cold?

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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:42 am

Yes...........Euonymous can be very hardy............I wonder if there are any new interesting cultivars out there?
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:55 am

wonder if there are any new interesting cultivars out there?
A nice way to say ours are ugly... :lol: :lol:

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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:20 am

I'm thinking someday we'll see some large leaf cultivars? :D
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:09 pm

The deer say "no". :lol:
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:15 pm

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Post by canadianplant » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:16 pm

If a deer ate my palms, it would be the only reason I would eat deer meet. Bring on the moose though!
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:36 pm

My dog keeps deer away from my palms and cycads, thankfully.
She must've been on a coffee break here:

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Young deer are destructive; they're just learning what to nibble on.
Whitetail deer are worse than mulies...they'll eat the bumper off a Ford before they realize it's not food.

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Post by canadianplant » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:05 am

IF the bumper was off of anything other then a ford the deer would stand a chance :D

You ever think of making a deer deflecting hedge barb?
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Post by lucky1 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:55 am

a deer deflecting hedge
nope, pretty tough on 15 acres.
Not really worth the trouble...dog(s) are the answer.

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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:07 am

Barb...........just put up a few signs that say 'no eating the garden plants'. :lol:
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:lol:
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Post by andym » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:03 pm

lucky1 wrote:So yours isn't evergreen, Andy?
Or was it simply hit with some unexpected cold?

Barb
No barb but this Euonymus had very strange bare stems. A very attractive plant whether in or out of leaf.
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:22 pm

The variation among plants is amazing.

I'm glad mine is evergreen, adds some interest to an otherwise lacklustre landscape in winter.

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Post by sidpook » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:06 am

andym wrote:I have Euonymus Alatus which puts on my only dislay of Autumn colour :oops:
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Nice pic. I too like euonymus for their colorful evergreen shows. I have yellow, green and white and green varieties. They right now have handsome dark red berries on them that contrast well with the glossy yellow and greens. I have a few of the (alatus) burning bush varieties around the side of the house. . They grow into medium sized trees also round here. Seems the only thing that kills euonymus is scale. That can be a bitch to get rid of!
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Post by sidpook » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:11 am

andym wrote:
lucky1 wrote:So yours isn't evergreen, Andy?
Or was it simply hit with some unexpected cold?

Barb
No barb but this Euonymus had very strange bare stems. A very attractive plant whether in or out of leaf.
Yes it is almost as if the stems have extra sheaths like scars growing out the sides of them. They are actually really invasive especially down the coast here in NJ. Here is a pic of the odd twig when bare

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Post by InsanePalmNinja » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:57 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Barb,

do the deer ever eat palms? :?
Rabbits do... next time I find one eating my palms. Am going wabbits hunting with a high powered sniper airsoft rifle. Will not kill but hirt like heck those.
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