Hardy queen palm?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:13 am

I seen this on youtube.
Has anyone tried this queen before?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bewpfoCTozs

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:14 am

One of the banks here left one planted in the ground all winter. I was surprised how much cold it took before finally turning completely brown. I'd say it took down to the teens pretty easily.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:33 am

Was he saying "Pyro"??

Hmmm.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:38 am

I thought he was saying pirate but i think it's Piru

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:12 am

anyone have any ideas on where to get this "piru" queen palm and how to identify it over a "regular" queen palm?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:20 am

Found this: " CoolGayDad says:
January 18, 2011 at 8:14 am

We lost 9 mature queen palms during the ’09-’10 winter. We purchased replacements from a local tree nursery that are supposed to be cold hardy down to 13 degrees. They are called Piru Queens Palms and so far they seem to be doing just fine this year withstanding temperatures down into the mid 20s here in Spring."

from somewhere on here: http://blog.chron.com/lazygardener/2011 ... nd-winter/

Barb

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:42 am

I found a nursery in Arizona that sells them but it looks like they don;t ship much outside that area..sure wish they did they have some large ones for about 60 bucks..thats worth it to me to test there cold hardy.

andym · Post by **andym** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:15 am

Never heard of piru queen palms but I have heard of Syagrus Romanzoffiana "Santa Catarina" which is from the mountains of Brazil rather than the bog standard Syagrus R from coastal areas. Perhaps he thinks they come from Peru??

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:56 am

Ive heard of "silver queen", which is supposed to be hardy to -9C if in not mistaken. Maybe all 3 of the suggested palms are the same one or 2?

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Santa Catarina mountain queens are the most cold hardy that I'm aware of. I grow ones from seed collected at 1,100 meters. It gets to 18F every few years and the 50-100 year lows reach 14F. I've never heard of a 'Piru' queen palm. It must have just recently popped up as a marketing ploy.

Interestingly, the name 'silver queen' came about from appearances after a major freeze event. It was said that heavy frost on the rows of queen palms in the field gave the illusion that their leaves were dipped in silver as the early morning light shined behind them. The ones that survived that devastating freeze were later called 'silver queens.'

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:48 pm

I found some Piru Queen palm seeds on ebay ( Arecastrum Romanzoffianum) . Located in US 5 seeds for $2.99.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arecastrum-roma ... OC:CA:3160

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:52 pm

Syagrus is now the proper genus name. He is offering common queen palm seeds for sale.

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:03 pm

I think I will contact that nursery and see if they have any small palms there willing to ship maybe 3-5 gallons

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:19 pm

As Andy and Steve both mentioned, the hardiest queen palms that I have heard of are from the Santa Catarina locale, and the "Silver Queens" were hardier-than-average queen palms from Florida.

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:59 am

I sent them a email I guess we will see what they say.

Eriktampabay · Post by **Eriktampabay** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:55 am

In my opinion it is just some shady marketing. Piru queen palm is a regular Syagrus. I believe they get there stock from Moon Valley Nurseries slapped the name Piru on it because that is the little town in which they grow it. They claim it is from Argentine decent.

Eriktampabay · Post by **Eriktampabay** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:22 am

I would suggest you google Piru Queen palm before considering purchasing them. The only good reviews are from the nurseries pushing this palm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmbVNFyO-I

andym · Post by **andym** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:58 am

Oooops.... that was an expensive mistake

Did I see a price mark of $399 or was I dreaming?