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Temporary Cold Covers
Frost tonight and more cold on the way
The pool guy says he takes old solar pool blankets to the dump, apparently can't be recycled!
Not as good as bubble wrap, but close.
Steel fence posts went up fast.
Solar blanket and duct tape work great.
Will add the C-9s and thermocube and more insulation later.
When it warms up.
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Hey...maybe this is how to get BLUE PALMS
Here's our weather crash...
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/fourteenday/cabc0312
Barb
The pool guy says he takes old solar pool blankets to the dump, apparently can't be recycled!
Not as good as bubble wrap, but close.
Steel fence posts went up fast.
Solar blanket and duct tape work great.
Will add the C-9s and thermocube and more insulation later.
When it warms up.
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Hey...maybe this is how to get BLUE PALMS
Here's our weather crash...
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/fourteenday/cabc0312
Barb
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Barb, we are going to get our first snow and a hard frost thereafter tomorrow or a day after tomorrow. I'm gonna get a hard time tomorrow bringing the stuff in.
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Looks good but where are the native Indians
We had a ground frost a few days ago and an actual frost in parts of the south coast of England..... the last place you would expect a frost
We had a ground frost a few days ago and an actual frost in parts of the south coast of England..... the last place you would expect a frost
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Igor and Andy,
Way too early for winter...we've been cheated again.
Way too early for winter...we've been cheated again.
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Are they just saying upper 20s?
Should not bother the Washys
Keep in mind-this comes from a guy
who burnt all the leaves off his
Should not bother the Washys
Keep in mind-this comes from a guy
who burnt all the leaves off his
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Yeah, Jim, -2C is 28.4F.
Had to get started though 'coz I don't want to be out there when temps crash one day soon.
You must be thinking about your winter protection too...
Barb
Had to get started though 'coz I don't want to be out there when temps crash one day soon.
You must be thinking about your winter protection too...
Barb
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Looks great Barb. Monday here looks to be a bit chilly -2c. Going to bring in the bananas and tender tropicals. I hate this time of the year. Ever thought of using house fiberglass insulation to wrap the Washy`s trunk. I used it last year and it worked like a charm for my W. filifera and a couple of smaller planted Trachy`s.
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After repeated frosts here, I still have some plants outside, including my CHinese fan palm, areca palm and CIDP. Guess what one is doing the best?
CIDP, -8C at the airport, unknown in the yard, heavy frost, undamaged?!?!
CIDP, -8C at the airport, unknown in the yard, heavy frost, undamaged?!?!
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John, so where was the heat? were they then enclosed in your plastic pyramid?using house fiberglass insulation to wrap the Washy`s trunk. I used it last year and it worked like a charm for my W. filifera and a couple of smaller planted Trachy`s.
Or a pipewrap inside your insulation?
I used house insulation last year (photo won't load ), but around the entire enclosure.
The C-9s were inside that enclosure on a thermocube.
The long range f'cast has been moderated a bit...trust that site to scare the s*** out of us and then revise it.
Jesse, I'm not surprised your CIDP did the best of those.
Remember the pics of that European CIDP? totally unscathed.
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I do think about covering the palms occasionally and then I stop
I do think about covering the palms occasionally and then I stop
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pool covers will do nicely! Great to recycle them.
We got fried last week......got down to 27F.
Basjoo fried:
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Cassia fried:
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Fig fried:
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One surprise is that the Tetrapanex held up better than other plants. Some leaves fried but not all. The leaves are now wilted but still green.
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Here's a photo of the Tetrapanex the day before the freeze.
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Ginger #1 fried:
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Ginger #2 fried:
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Ginger #3 fried:
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Crape Myrtle 'Sarah's Favorite' leaves fried:
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New growth on the Illiciums got fried:
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Even the leaves on the Desert Willow got fried.......I would have thought they could take light freezes??
We got fried last week......got down to 27F.
Basjoo fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 5D19C7.jpg>
Cassia fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... D73052.jpg>
Fig fried:
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One surprise is that the Tetrapanex held up better than other plants. Some leaves fried but not all. The leaves are now wilted but still green.
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 2D1A4E.jpg>
Here's a photo of the Tetrapanex the day before the freeze.
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Ginger #1 fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... F58F40.jpg>
Ginger #2 fried:
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Ginger #3 fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 871EF5.jpg>
Crape Myrtle 'Sarah's Favorite' leaves fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... B5D8C9.jpg>
New growth on the Illiciums got fried:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 7A48E4.jpg>
Even the leaves on the Desert Willow got fried.......I would have thought they could take light freezes??
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Ooooh, Tim, that's awful from only a light freeze.
Were you planning on digging up the gingers, etc. before the frost hit?
Barb
Were you planning on digging up the gingers, etc. before the frost hit?
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Looks good Barb, I have to look at protection this weekend. I thought I seen superstore having a bunch of small pool cover bubble wrap on clearance. What else did the pool boy have to say? lol
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Mine look ok so far and we have been below freezing for a week or better at night (warmer now) I think we got down to at least 25F or colder.TimMAz6 wrote: We got fried last week......got down to 27F.
Even the leaves on the Desert Willow got fried.......I would have thought they could take light freezes??
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Keith, just phone any pool company and ask if you can have an old solar pool blanket.I have to look at protection this weekend
Companies have to pay to dump them.
Glad it's warmed up Aaron...there's a big system out in the Pacific.we have been below freezing for a week or better at night (warmer now) I think we got down to at least 25F or colder
I bought yet another NEW remote thermometer...and couldn't get one @#$%^ of the 4 screws out of the housing to insert the batteries.
Yup, made in China!
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I hope it don't bring the "S" word with it!lucky1 wrote: Glad it's warmed up Aaron...there's a big system out in the Pacific.
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the bugger must've been in third gear, because it arrived.big system out in the Pacific
Oh yeah, Aaron, hail this afternoon, cold winds.
1-800-Pan Am? I want to go south already.
Permanently.
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Good idea, John.fiberglass insulation I took about half of the 6" thickness and wound that on the trunk first then wrapped the C 9 lights and then finished with another wrap over the lights.
I may try that this time versus wrapping the entire teepee in house insulation and then another layer of plastic.
How do you keep the ground warm though?
Last year I laid the C-9s on the ground in a circle around the base of the palm.
My theory was cold soil should also be warmed.
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Hi Barb,
I'll leave the gingers in the ground and place some mulch over them..........they are along a basement wall........I hope they will return like last winter.
Hi Aaron,
I assume our excess moisture causes premature damage to the desert willow leaves?? I hope they can survive the winter here.
I'll leave the gingers in the ground and place some mulch over them..........they are along a basement wall........I hope they will return like last winter.
Hi Aaron,
I assume our excess moisture causes premature damage to the desert willow leaves?? I hope they can survive the winter here.
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John, that doesn't work for me, because the bed has a gravel mulch...it'd be a pain to try to remove bark mulch off rocks for the summer.8" of mulch on the ground around the filifera
I'm also concerned about fire from C-9's laying on dry leaves/bark mulch.
So I'll just keep warming the rocks.
Tim, let's hope you have a mild winter; they're nice plants.leave the gingers in the ground and place some mulch over them
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Guys, you're not alone. The forecasting first snow in Poland on Thursday. Unfortunately not at my place, but today will be the last warm day of falligor.glukhovtsev wrote:Barb, we are going to get our first snow and a hard frost thereafter tomorrow or a day after tomorrow. I'm gonna get a hard time tomorrow bringing the stuff in.
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Ouch Barb...23F this morning there?
We may be there by the weekend...in the mean time,
summer like temps with lows in the 60s and highs 80+
-also,we have now had about 5.5" of rain this month!
We may be there by the weekend...in the mean time,
summer like temps with lows in the 60s and highs 80+
-also,we have now had about 5.5" of rain this month!
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I think it should winter ok for you. I had one in the past and did ok until it got like -12F and lots of snow. I do know they much better the bigger they get. I'm going to cover mine this first winter.TimMAz6 wrote: Hi Aaron,
I assume our excess moisture causes premature damage to the desert willow leaves?? I hope they can survive the winter here.
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Tim - What type of gingers are those?
Barb - I like to let my hardy tropicals get hit with as much frost as I can possibly let them get hit by, without death or massive damage. In my mind im acclimating them to winter.
Barb - I like to let my hardy tropicals get hit with as much frost as I can possibly let them get hit by, without death or massive damage. In my mind im acclimating them to winter.
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I just saw the post about putting mulch down.
You can always put a tarp over the rocks and then add
mulch-keeping moisture and freezing temps away
from the roots as much as possible is critical....what
I mean by that is(if not mulched) that they will die.
I just saw the post about putting mulch down.
You can always put a tarp over the rocks and then add
mulch-keeping moisture and freezing temps away
from the roots as much as possible is critical....what
I mean by that is(if not mulched) that they will die.
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Good idea about mulch placed on a tarp Jim.
This is their second winter in the ground.
Apart from some fungus on the fronds last spring, they made it fine.
Still gotta add more insulation...when it stops snowing,
Barb
This is their second winter in the ground.
Apart from some fungus on the fronds last spring, they made it fine.
Still gotta add more insulation...when it stops snowing,
Barb
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Better then Cal;gary barb!
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Heh, even for the awesome long year:
Fri sat sun M Tu Wed
High 5 °C 4 °C 4 °C 2 °C 1 °C 5 °C
Feels Like -2 -3 -3 -2 -7 -3
Low -1 °C -3 °C -3 °C -4 °C -3 °C -2 °C
Fri sat sun M Tu Wed
High 5 °C 4 °C 4 °C 2 °C 1 °C 5 °C
Feels Like -2 -3 -3 -2 -7 -3
Low -1 °C -3 °C -3 °C -4 °C -3 °C -2 °C
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Ugh that snow in Canada! You can keep it!
@ Tim, Do those gingers stay in the ground all year???
@ Tim, Do those gingers stay in the ground all year???
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So far this fall the low has reached about -2.5 C. There was some frost on windshields a couple of times, but my figs and other plants haven't fried yet. However, it's supposed to reach around -4 C tomorrow night, so things may change! I have all of my small tropicals (Plumerias, etc) still outside under a tarp
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- Arctic Palm Plantation
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- Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
- Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)
A sunny day, and protection "doors" (OK, just plastic sheets ) are open.
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Thermostat is inside (away from the sun) near the spear.
Kinda warm in there That's 91 F
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Barb
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Thermostat is inside (away from the sun) near the spear.
Kinda warm in there That's 91 F
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Barb
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If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.
If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.