cold hardest phoenix palm in starokorsunskaya,russia

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cold hardest phoenix palm in starokorsunskaya,russia

Post by damir » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:34 am

here is a pic of palm in starokorsunskaya,russia. palm is brought from iran in 1980's. there are also 2 other palms from afghanistan planted in backyard. afghans are green in colour,while this one iranian is blue colour of the leaves. palms are from some mountain regions in iran and afghanistan. dont know where from exactly. the owner was in military missions there in iran and afghanistan,and brought the palms about 30 years ago. palms were protected just with cardboard when were smaller,and now when are huge just trunk is protected. leaves die,but it recovers every year. even it has fruits with seeds that germinates. and we are takling about russia. not sochi. lowest temps this year was lower than -20 C,for many days, when i watched in internet weather on line. this is the cold hardest feather palm (phoenix) i ever seen. one friend from serbia has 2 palms from seeds of those from starokorsunskaya.also he got some seeds,and i got 3 seeds from him, that germinated. the seeds i got then are the hybride between this 2 cold hardy palms from iran - afghanistan. it would be great to grow this 3 and have it outdoor all year round.

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the huge palm in starokorsunskaya

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small palm in serbia from this friend,pic taken this year under snow. palm had just passive protection,not heated,and survived -25 C in serbia,zone 6 to 7

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also one pic inside the cage of protection,palm was wrapped with few lays of nylon,old carpet...

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and here it is,small palm after the winter this year,NO DAMAGE AT ALL !!

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leaves green as in middle of summer

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small trunk

i posted the same topic at EPS,european palm society, but there was no positive opinion about it. some said that it could be planted year before and pictured.
pic was taken in december 2011. by this friends friend who works there in starokorsunskaya,by mobile phone, thats why pic quality is bad. he will go there again in spring now. he also said when he returned to serbia in december, temp was -20 C and there was about one meter of snow. it seems that it is date palm. it has offshoots at the trunk,as this man who saw it says. he will take new pics and send it to this friend. it will be great to see it now after this cold winter. and i doubt that it is not alive any more.



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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:09 pm

damir,
I wonder if we could all buy seeds from him.
If so, please find out how much money he wants for 3 seeds of this year's seeds.

That Phoenix is so very special because of its parentage and ability to survive.

Would love to see your 3 seedlings that germinated from the 2 cold hardy parents.

Spectacular news, very exciting.
Phoenix are among my favourite palms, damir.
I would love to grow one outdoors and even provide a little protection, but it has to come from hardy parents like your story for when it grows beyond protection size.

Thank you for those very exciting photos. :cheers:

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:12 pm

Damir, I have been following this topic on the EPS forum, and it's great that you posted it here too!
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:19 am

nice Pheonix palm find. Keep us updated on it's progress.
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Post by damir » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:53 am

here are 2 more pics from starokorsunskaya today. the friends friend got back to russia and today took pic of 2 other palms that are in backyard and send it to him. after winter it still looks great. there are some leaf damage but look at the size of the palms and they are alive!! this must be something special. lowest temps were around -20 C for lot of days. typical continental climate,as here in europe. and it is alive!!!


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pics were taken again with mobile phone, bad quality, but we can see it.

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:47 am

damir, thank you for those updated Phoenix photos.

I looked up the latitude for starokorsunskaya, Russia.
At approx. 45 N, it relates to latitude of Portland Oregon ~700 miles south of me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_%28state%29

Darn....I can't grow 99% of what they can grow in Portland!

So my hopes are dashed of growing a Phoenix to maturity outside, even a hardy Phoenix. :angry1:

But I'll look forward to more photos of that one in Russia!
It is so beautifully pruned too, very good job.

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Post by TimMAz6 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:54 pm

great palm! Thanks for posting more photos.
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