Some More Palm Seed and Seedling Photos.....

Germination Techniques

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Post by oppalm » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:17 am

Shade cloth = a good thing. I made small shade structures out of 1" X 2" lumber, pounded them into the ground and they worked great.

Steve - my outdoor stuff is looking pretty good. I do have some concerns that my palm hut is getting to warm on sunny days, even with open sides. My Trachy Takil leaves are getting burned out it appears. I sprayed it with some fungecide and maybe this weekend I'll spray with some wilt pruf. I think it will be OK. Only time will tell.
Also this weekend I am going to put some shade cloth on the south facing side of my palm hut.


Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Post by Kansas » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:30 pm

Steve,
Thrinax radiata: Are those from the seeds you sent me? I only had three of those pop for me and only one of those has a root that I think is going to make it, MAYBE :cry: I changed the medium as the one I had them in was a clumpy mixture and not my new found favorite mixture.

Dypsis decaryi : Are these from that guy in Texas by way of Florida? If so, I got ZERO germination from them. Still have hope thou.


Adonidia merrillii : Are these from the batch that you gave me some last year? If so, I LOVE THOSE!!!! Maybe my favorite things you gave me. Doing AWSOME right now.


Are you able to have a visit this week?

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Post by Knnn » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:23 pm

Kansas, ( Wes ),

The Thrinax and Gaussia are all from the same batch, I have Thrinax coming up like weeds here and have had low results with the Gaussia.

These are the kind of the things I"ve given up on trying to sort out. Another example is spending 2 days soaking and cleaning 250+ fresh Queen Palm seeds and only having 4 germinate. Then having 2 damp off :lol:

The Triangles are from a bonus pack that Ortanique was kind enough to send a few months back. The ones from Texas got tossed after some signs of rot ~ Think they were just too old. Everything else from there has germinated.


The Christmas Palms are one and the same, Sailing through this Winter with 35* ~ 45*F low temps in the GH 8)

Will send you a PM on the other.
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Post by Kansas » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:17 am

"The Thrinax and Gaussia are all from the same batch, I have Thrinax coming up like weeds here and have had low results with the Gaussia."
WOW!!! That is amazing. Because I have the exact opposite results. I told you about the three Thrinax seeds and how I don't think I will even get one tree out of them. But EVERY SINGLE ONE of my Gaussis popped. They are still throwing down the root and do not have the "seedling" yet, but all are looking good as far as rooting goes.



"The Triangles".." The ones from Texas got tossed after some signs of rot ~ Think they were just too old. "
Yea, I still have them trying, but I think they are too old. You had luck with the "carpenter Palms"????


"The Christmas Palms are one and the same, Sailing through this Winter with 35* ~ 45*F low temps in the GH "
Yep, I just love these. I am SOOOO glad that you told me about them doing so well in the greenhouse. Now I can comfortably have them in mine if the snow ever melts to where I can put mine up.

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Post by tropicman » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:48 pm

Steve,
I wished I have met you a lot sooner,I would have sent you my buta paraguayensis and pinanga coronata seeds.
I planted them in May and still no germination!!!
I have them in Plastic cups,on a wire shelf with a oil filled heater underneath on low,so I know there getting plenty of warmth,have to water them about every 3 to 4 days.
Haven't gave up yet,fingers are still crossed but getting stiff,so they better hurry and germinate!!LOL

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Sometimes It's A Long Wait....

Post by Knnn » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:04 am

I have some things over a year now with no luck :|
They are still good but are keeping their own schedule.

My best luck is with fresh seed, Every now and then I can get a bag with the fruit still attached. Some of my best memories are taking a day to clean a batch of seeds. Hyphaene seeds have a smell much like Brugmansia's in bloom. Queen Palms are more of a overpowering sticky sweet smell, Livistona's are lightly scented but the easiest I"ve found to clean, etc.

Also buying in quantity helps a lot 8) Out of a 100 seed lot, 50% will usually germinate in short order with the rest 3 -6 months later. ( This is of course assuming relatvely fresh seed )

This place here is a good source of seed lots,

http://botanicalauctions.com


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Post by tropicman » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:19 am

Over a year!!!
Well now I don't feel so bad after all,I got anxious and dug up one of the seeds,looks as it did the day I planted it.
Oh well,it's a good wait if they do germinate!
Thanks

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Post by Kansas » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:46 am

Have you guys ever had fresh Dioon Edule (I think thats what these are) with the flesh still on?????
HOLY JEEZ does it suck getting the fruit off of those!! And the smell!!!!WOW.
BTW, Steve, I got, at last check 2 seeds to pop. If I can get more, I will get you a couple.

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Post by Laaz » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:58 am

Kansas. Cycad seed are poison as well. Be careful removing the flesh. If the flesh gets under your fingernails it irritates your skin like hell.

Evey year we hear of dogs dying from eating the seeds.

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Post by Kansas » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:03 am

Do they usually stink too? My GOD these still stink in the medium.
BTW, my Taitungensis/Guinenhouensis (sp?) cross popped seeds are starting to put up a flush. What Mr. Chumley (chumleycycads.com) told me about these are true, fast growers for Cycads.

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Post by Laaz » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:08 am

Yes they smell like s@#t.

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Plant Toxicity

Post by Knnn » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:09 am

Lazz,
You brought up a great poiint regarding plant toxicity, most Cycad seeds and foliage contains neurotoxins in varying amounts, ( It is interesting to note the Native Americans in Fl developed ways to deal with this in their processing of Coonties for starch )

Some Palm fruits also contain calcium oxalate, which can also cause a painful experience. Most palms are non toxic, but it is always a good idea to research what you have.



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