Road trip down into Texas

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:08 pm

I have not started a new thread for a while as I am not sure what to post. March is unpredictable. In brief, some plants I thought were dead are not, while others which I thought had pulled through our all-time record "colder than the south pole" last month are dead. I'll give updates in a couple of weeks when I know more.

W's hobby is breeding horses. Not just any horses, but Andalusian horses. Which to you and I mean horses from where C. humilis is native: southern Spain. Horses breeding is more tightly regulated than palm breeding. To sell shipped semen (think, pony pollen) as "pura raza espanol" (PRE) we need a certified equine veterinarian from Spain to determine based on DNA and morphology that our stud is really PRE. Not easy as we live a long way from Spain. We had the chance to drive our stud to a large farm in Texas, north of Tyler, where they had paid a Spanish vet. to perform a "revision" on PRE horses in the area.

So, down we went. It was not a palm trip so I mostly have windshield data and a few snap-shots from places where we stopped to report on what I saw. For reference, Tyler, Texas, saw lows last month to -9 C (+16 F). Must be nice, huh?

Report on palms:
all Washingtonia robusta I saw were dead. The one W. filifera I saw was alive and recovering after near-complete defoliation. All Trachycarpus fortunei looked good, with some foliar damage but nothing I think of as bad. The two Butia I saw looked amazingly good--enough to make me consider them again. As near as I can tell, no one down there protects palms. Wild Sabal minor I saw out the window looked fantastic, as I would expect.

Photos:
#1 stallion being inspected by Spanish veterinarian. Imagine having to have a Chinese botanist inspect your Trachy before you sell pollen!

#2 Trachy in a friend's front yard that will do just fine.

#3 Washy in same yard that will not survive.

#4 Sago by the motel we stayed at--any guesses?

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TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:07 am

Those cold shots may help people find the 'hardy' palm forms. Hopefully someone will find a Washy R. which did survive........then we can collect seeds. How many horses do you & your wife have?

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:38 am

Tim,
we have four horses now: this stallion, a gelding, a filly born here two years ago and a broodmare in foal.
The mini who was my model for photos like, "pindo palm taller than a horse" was dropped off at her home in Texas as part of the trip. She'll foal in April.

Back to palms. As we were driving down Thursday, we got lost and ended up on a rural road. Imagine my surprise in driving past a tiny nursery (poly tunnels--no building) in the middle of nowhere and seeing six Trachy in 30 gallon pots with 6' (2 m) trunks! It was late and they were closed, but it sure got me thinking that maybe the cold (for them) in Texas has led to renewed interest in Trachy vs. W. robusta. We'll be back in Texas with the horse trailer in June so maybe I can bring home a trunked Trachy then.

--Erik

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:08 am

there's gonna be a lot of work cleaning up all the dead palms down in Texas.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:49 pm

I am back in Tyler, for work this time: speaking about my wildlife research in Belize.

To save gas, I hitched a ride with a friend who has a hybrid car. This keeps me from visiting nurseries, thus saving money two ways.

Basically, as I reported last month, Trachycarpus, Butia and Sabal look great. Washy looks bad. I saw some big, old and tall (~30' trunk) that might survive--there is a little green left.

There was a Lowe's near the hotel. I walked there to see what was for sale. Answer: "blue pot" Chammie, needle palms and Sabal minor (photo 1).

I then walked to a new Mexican restaurant under construction. They recently planted a couple large Butia and a half dozen tall Sabal palmetto (remaining photos).

These seem sensible choices after their record cold of 16 F in February. (Yes, +16 F was a record for the date!)
Tyler set a record high of 90 F today, with a record high of 93 F forecast for tomorrow.

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DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:20 am

Very cool thanks for sharing.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:18 pm

Just as well you didn't have your truck for the Lowe's visit

Hope they untie those palms soon...
Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:43 pm

Barb,
I'm guessing they will leave the 2x4 support boards up for a while. Supposedly Sabal roots in a transplanted field-dug palmettoi aren't strong enough to support the palm for a while, hence the (near) "hurricane cuts" they get. --Erik

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:55 pm

Oh yes, the 2x4s should remain.
Hate seeing fronds tied up like that.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:04 pm

Thanks for sharing Erik. AMazing the weather they have had there. Spring is HERE! Finally....Happy Holidays everyone! I hope you are all as excitred about summer and warmer temps as I am!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:19 am

Happy Holidays to you too Mike.

Glad we're all finally seeing some spring weather.
We sure deserve it...so do our plants.

Happy jogging!
Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:46 am

lucky1 wrote:Happy Holidays to you too Mike.

Glad we're all finally seeing some spring weather.
We sure deserve it...so do our plants.

Happy jogging!
Barb

Thanks Barb. Right! It has been really wet here too, so things are really popping!

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Road trip down into Texas

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