my plants, croatia, usda 7a

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:18 am

Hi Damir,

nice snowy/frosty plants. Do you protect the palms in winter?

Hi Barb,

Too funny with Midas Muffler! Around here Pizza Hut's still have the original architecture from the 70's.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:26 am

Thanks for posting the vids. WOW!

damir · Post by **damir** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:10 am

thanks!

usually i do wrapp the trachy and cover it with nylon. this year it wasnt too cold for it,even it has some leaf damage now. but it is important that plant dosent die. i cut all burned leaves in spring, and it recovers. cidp is first year in ground,it was wrapped all the time,till 10 days ago when temps began ti rise,and i keep it unwrapped and open now, as long as it will be good weather. if it gets worse,ill wrapp it again.

damir · Post by **damir** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:26 pm

some pics few years ago, summer,croatia , makarska

damir · Post by **damir** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:37 pm

damir · Post by **damir** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:50 pm

I have more, just need to post it on imageshack. will be soon. makarska is place in Dalmatia (croatia), known as home of dalmatian dog
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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/561 ... 88c7b0.jpg
http://www.crankycritic.com/archive/pos ... atians.jpg
very nice place to spend your hollydays in.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm

Wow! (except the photo of your foot)

Such healthy looking pine trees overhanging the beach and on the mountain slopes. Our pines aren't that lush looking.
Bougainvillea grows there, or is it potted? And those palms!
The CIDPs along the waterfront road are sooooooo beautiful, interesting pruning technique, considerably different from how Southern California pruners do it.
Their aim is a clear trunk with no hint of old leaf bases, then the "pineapple".

And the CIDPs in fruit!
Did you start your CIDP from one of those seeds on the beach?

Thanks for the great pics...and shoe size 11

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:30 pm

Good pics!

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:26 am

i didn't grow mine cidp from seeds of those from dalmatia. i bought mine in one nursery,for about 5 dolars. it was damaged a lot but central spear was green and healthy,and i took it. regular price was about 40 bucks,but because it was damaged there was a discount.
dalmatia have mediteranean climate, so lot of exotics grow there. palms,olives,lemons,orange,agave,cactus,grapes....
we have very good vines
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http://www.zora-hotel.com/slike/velike/ ... pota_v.jpg

http://enogastromama.files.wordpress.co ... =490&h=456

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the best wine "dingach"

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:07 am

damir,

Ah...to be able to grow bougainvillea, olives, lemons and CIDP outdoors is a wonderful dream!

Once again thanks for great links, fabulous Mediterranean climate and those pictures of limestone bluffs at 20-34 degree slopes!
The 2nd and 5th pictures remind me of similar steep vineyards we saw many years ago during a boat trip down the Rhine in Germany.

Photos make me want to get out of here...permanently.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:05 am

lucky1 wrote:damir,

Ah...to be able to grow bougainvillea, olives, lemons and CIDP outdoors is a wonderful dream!

Photos make me want to get out of here...permanently.

Barb

How nice it would be. I just need

and money.

damir · Post by **damir** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:48 pm

yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates.

i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:51 pm

hey, damir, you forgot CANADA (in the summer!)

would like to change my 7a zone for 10b

Me too!
...so I cold grow Zone 29 plants and protect them in winter.

Barb

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:46 pm

here is my yucca brevifolia

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:52 pm

Nice, damir!
Mine might be his brother:

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Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:39 am

Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:10 am

damir wrote:yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates. i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.

I think I would trade my zone 8b for a zone 9, I'm never happy.

Nice j-tree by the way.

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:31 pm

sidpook wrote:Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

hi sidpook. zagreb is nice, i lived there for 5 years. you should go to coast next time you visit us.
rgds

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:37 pm

DesertZone wrote:
damir wrote:yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates. i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.
I think I would trade my zone 8b for a zone 9, I'm never happy.

Nice j-tree by the way.

thanks d.z. if this global warming doesent help us to jump in higher zone, nothing will.

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:58 pm

nice joshua tree barb. mine and yours could be the same age. mine is 5 years now.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:01 pm

I think mine's maybe 4 years old, damir.

Barb

PS--Cameron is going to post some de-lidding pictures in his Germination post.
So that we know which end of which seed to de-lid.
Trachies/chamaerops are somewhere near the middle (I found out), so we will need any successful de-lidding pictures added to his post.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:05 am

damir wrote:
sidpook wrote:Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

hi sidpook. zagreb is nice, i lived there for 5 years. you should go to coast next time you visit us.
rgds

I definitely will. I have been to the Italian side of the adriatic only. And actually the time I was in Zagreb it was still the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Quite different from now I suppose.

damir · Post by **damir** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:06 pm

big difference now, then in former yugoslavia. in year or 2 we'll be member of EU.

damir · Post by **damir** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:29 pm

my CIDP survived it's first winter in the ground in zone 7a.

damir · Post by **damir** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:35 pm

one trachy fortunei defoliated (north exposure) other one (south exposure) just minor damage. place in the garden is very important, i would say.

also i planted one magnolia grandiflora , two days ago.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:03 am

Amazing the trachy defoliated, and the cidp made it with leaves.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:11 am

I second what Aaron said.

Would have expected the opposite results.
Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:28 pm

Good job, Damir! What was your lowest temp this winter?

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:42 am

lowest temp was -13 C. lot of days around -10C, and few weeks temp was not above 0C. here is problem in europe that we have wet winers. if the palm roots are dry in winter than it can survive much lower temps than it says for every specie. also long period of time temps do not rise above zero C.
from mine experience , very important is that center of the palm does not get wet in winter,so you will not have spear pulling in spring. my cidp was in some kind of cage,made from old windows with double glasses. also i put nylon at the ground inside the cage so there is no evaporation from the ground. then i wrapped the palm in many lays of fabrics. on that i put one smaller wood box and all of that was inside the glass box made of windows.
trachy wasnt covered. so now i had spear pulled from both of them. i washed it, the hole inside the palm and water it with mix of water and fungicide, antracol,so it recovers. this i did and last year and it recovers. here are some pics what i did.

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 am

i open the cage few times in winter when temps were in +. dark inside is not the problem for palms, but lack of the air is so fungus showed up.

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:52 am

i like this pic. 2 weeks ago. now temps are 20C,morning 5 to 10C. spring is finally here!

damir · Post by **damir** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:55 am

one rhapy hystrix is comig out. just one, but

cameron, did you recive seeds i sent you?

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:22 am

Hi Damir,

Great pics! That's good to see that the needle palm is germinating for you! Unfortunately, the seeds never arrived.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:45 am

Damir,
great photos and description, thanks.

also i put nylon at the ground inside the cage so there is no evaporation from the ground

I like that idea.

Congrats on the Hystrix germination!

I think Trachies need to be near a building for protection.
Mine didn't do well here even in summer when exposed to hot weather and drying winds.
Does much better now 4 feet from the East wall of house.

Good luck with fungicide results.
Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:26 am

nice protection of the Phoenix!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:20 am

TimMAz6 wrote:nice protection of the Phoenix!

I agree.

damir · Post by **damir** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:21 am

finally spring is here. i planted some new things, pics soon. opuntias are ready to flower... cold hardy agave planted outdoor, some new seedlings like trachy bulgaria (hardiest trachy there is), some yuccas, mostly aloifolia.
my fruits are growing, kiwi, mini kiwi actinidia arguta , it is cold hardy to -30C, all you that live in cooler climates should get some of this one. also siberian lemon, poncirus trifoliata, cold hardy to -20C.

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat May 14, 2011 1:06 am

here is a pic of my broken joshua tree. neighbour's kids were playing around it when i planted it in the ground one month ago,and..... i took hormone for roots in hope that it could make new ones, the part that felt off. yesterday i was surprised when i dug it up and saw many new roots,also the part of the trunk that stayed in the ground has some new leaves. now i have two brevifolias.

)) first i was mad at the kids, but it was my mistake cause i didnt put something around it so it is visible. now i am happy.

)))

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat May 14, 2011 1:11 am

here are my new yuccas grown from seeds that i got from mesagarden,new mexico.

here is araucaria araucana,2nd year grown from seed

opuntia new growth,camanchica and fragilis in back,also agave lechuiguilla

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat May 14, 2011 1:16 am

here is my new fruit, zyzyphus jujuba. jujube tree, chineese date.

cacty, something coccineus if i remember...

and joshua tree planted outdoor in hope it will stay there lot of years