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Post by TerdalFarm » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:40 pm

Frisk,
welcome!
Please start an "introduction" thread to show us your cool palms and how you protect them in climates as cold as Canada has.
As for your comments, I agree that -10 oC is not good for Butia but not hopeless either. I think it can recover. My avatar Butia has seen worse several times. It does not like it, but always recovers.

I didn't say anything earlier about crossing heat cable, but you are correct that the instructions specify clearly not to do that. So, I try to avoid it. It occasionally happens anyway as they slip but I have never had a problem. Still, I try to correct that when I notice it. I am trying three different models this year. All give the same warning, but maybe the model Stefano uses does not have that problem. He had an electrician help him, who would presumably have let him know if it was a problem with the particular one he was installing.

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Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:49 pm

Frisk in Sweden, welcome to Palms North.

-9.6C Butia is a good time to join :wink:
Hope it surprises you by living and that your heating cable stays on.

My LaCrosse remote thermometer is terrible too, each day for a few hours it reads "--" :evil:

Once your cold emergency is over, we'd love to see some pictures.
Good luck with the Butia heat.

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:17 pm

Welcome to the forum, Frisk! I used to browse the Norwegian palm website ScanPalm, but it doesn't seem to be in operation anymore!
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Re: Update

Post by Seba » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:28 am

Hi Erik, what is the wattage of that heating cable?
I will inform all of you about the results when in spring at 20°C I will se how reallt the palms are.

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Post by TerdalFarm » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:34 am

Stefano,
it varies by length, and also among different manufacturers for the same length.
All are quite low. My one trial with Christmas lights uses 125 watts for a single string, which I think is as much as all of my pipe heating cables combined.
I'll record them when I get home if W has not discarded the packaging while I am away.

I have also been taking photos of ornamental Cycads growing here which I cannot identify. One is nearly as big as the Cycas you have.

I'll try to take shark photos for you today (nurse sharks).
One of these years you and I should meet up to swim with whale sharks!
--Erik

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Post by Frisk » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:03 pm

Normaly ist around 100w/meter cable. I have noticed that its a good idea to wrap the whole palm with heatingcable and not just the roots like i did. Now when the temp is very low the cable doesnt heat enough! Heatingcables vary their temp. a lot. Most of them only gets around 40 degrees C. I know one that gets 35 degrees warm but also up to 65 degrees Celsius and even more. Think of this when you buy heatingcables. We dont want the palm to get burned :) (I guess you all know this... i have just escaped from my wifes "tidy up in the house")

Gotta run before she finds out i have deserted her! :lol:

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Post by Seba » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:41 pm

TerdalFarm wrote:Stefano,
it varies by length, and also among different manufacturers for the same length.
All are quite low. My one trial with Christmas lights uses 125 watts for a single string, which I think is as much as all of my pipe heating cables combined.
I'll record them when I get home if W has not discarded the packaging while I am away.

I have also been taking photos of ornamental Cycads growing here which I cannot identify. One is nearly as big as the Cycas you have.

I'll try to take shark photos for you today (nurse sharks).
One of these years you and I should meet up to swim with whale sharks!
--Erik
Hi, nurse shark pictures? Send them to my e-mail address info@stefanobarone.net. I love nurse sharks.
Take pictures of the big cycas too.
best regards
Stefano

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Post by TerdalFarm » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:00 pm

I just sent you two shark photos from snorkeling yesterday plus three of the cycad. One shows the entire plant, one shows the base with seedlings growing, some embedded in the trunk; the last shows the crown. Apparently the New York Botanical Garden could only ID it to "Cycas sp." and so that is how it appears in the book, "Plants of Caye Caulker."

Here is me buying a copy of the text from one of the authors:

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Re: photos sent

Post by Seba » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:03 am

TerdalFarm wrote:I just sent you two shark photos from snorkeling yesterday plus three of the cycad. One shows the entire plant, one shows the base with seedlings growing, some embedded in the trunk; the last shows the crown. Apparently the New York Botanical Garden could only ID it to "Cycas sp." and so that is how it appears in the book, "Plants of Caye Caulker."

Here is me buying a copy of the text from one of the authors:

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I am as much a bibliophile as a palmophile :D
Hi, I've received all the pictures! Nice sharks: are you there on Holiday? I am a bibliophile too, I love bopth modern and ancient naturalistic books. I have also many 1700-1800 naturalistic engravings.

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