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Eucalyptus Experiment.

Post by canadianplant » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:44 pm

Ive read that some Eucalyptus species can be grown as a die back perennial, and even with multch, leave some of the turnk alive, in zones as cold as zone 4 or 5. Have you heard of this?



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Post by BILL MA » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:16 pm

Eucalyptus is a zone 7b tree if you want to have any shot of saving the leaves 5f is when they really go down hill, higher if not in a nice spot. As a die back perennial you might have luck if you can keep the ground from freezing, if you can over winter a elephant ear you have a shot.

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Post by Paul Ont » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:12 am

Cp- They tend to not be worthwhile. The only good reason to grow Eucalyptus (IMO) is for their bark. Otherwise they are not useful trees, horticulturally (fast growth aside, and sorry to all the Koala's who post here). Were I you, I'd worry more about trying to get something with a similar effect (paperbark maple, London plane tree) that might have a shot in T-bay!

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Post by Barrie » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:16 am

Paul Ont wrote:Cp- They tend to not be worthwhile. The only good reason to grow Eucalyptus (IMO) is for their bark. Otherwise they are not useful trees, horticulturally (fast growth aside, and sorry to all the Koala's who post here). Were I you, I'd worry more about trying to get something with a similar effect (paperbark maple, London plane tree) that might have a shot in T-bay!
To each there own I guess. I have a dozen or more gum trees on my ½ acre property.
Here (Vancouver Island) I fine them very useful. Evergreen, drought tollerant, mainly carefree trees. They mix well with many of the native tree species too.

Cheers, Barrie.

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Post by canadianplant » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:52 pm

I guess its more the tropical vibe. And once again, who in northern ontario can say they have a eucalyptus in their yard? But, Im still interested in a ginko biloba. A friend is willing to send me mimosa seeds. Hardy to 5A or 4b, gonna bonzai it to about 6 feet n cover it in the winter. Why not experiment.

I think they do good in LML BC to cause im their habiat they do get periods of torrential rain. Of course not vancouver style..... but still makes it easier to keep em alive.

thanks for the input

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Post by ROBRETI » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:27 am

Hi all,

Anyone having experience with Eucalyptus niphophylla? I read abotu it in France where they sucecessfully grew it in the Massife Central region (closer to z7 than z6 I guess). The picture showed a nice gnarly trunk and very narrow leaves...

I would go crazy if any would survive in Ontario....

Imagine, I keep seeing a small Eucalyptus in front of the Rogers Stadium in TO. It is probably a die-back plant, becasue it never is taller than 1 foot. At this stage it does not really good great, I must admit :-(. I would not be able to identify it, it still has it juvenile leaves and I lost track of those 700 species... LOL

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:15 pm

Out of all of them, one of the most cold tolerant is E. pauciflora ssp. debeuzevillei (hardy to -20 C)
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Post by Barrie » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:39 pm

Cameron_z6a_N.S. wrote:Out of all of them, one of the most cold tolerant is E. pauciflora ssp. debeuzevillei (hardy to -20 C)
That maybe true in many cases but not all. I had 5 mature debeuzevillei and one of them froze right to the ground after a once in twenty year low of -14ºC (winter 2008 -09). Four of the others where fine and the fifth barely made a come back, then slowly died through last spring. Difficult to explain but not all are created equally. This has been the case with other species here as well.

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:00 pm

Barrie wrote:
Cameron_z6a_N.S. wrote:Out of all of them, one of the most cold tolerant is E. pauciflora ssp. debeuzevillei (hardy to -20 C)
That maybe true in many cases but not all. I had 5 mature debeuzevillei and one of them froze right to the ground after a once in twenty year low of -14ºC (winter 2008 -09). Four of the others where fine and the fifth barely made a come back, then slowly died through last spring. Difficult to explain but not all are created equally. This has been the case with other species here as well.

Cheers, Barrie.
that's right :D there can also be a big difference in hardiness in the same ssp. depending on the provenance
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Post by ROBRETI » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:38 pm

Thanks a lot for the inputs!!!! This is awesome! Any seeds available for sale?

Rob

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Post by Barrie » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:23 am

Cameron ... these E. debeuzevillei trees all came from the same seed source. I had a beautiful E.pulverulenta which produced plenty of seed. It's now dead and one of it's seedling at my neighbors is completely unfazed and looks fabulous.

Rob ... my Eucalyptus debeuzevillei produce a mess of seed. If you're interested in trying some, I can fire off some in the mail for you.

Cheers, Barrie.

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Post by ROBRETI » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:21 pm

Hi Barrie,

You are KING, thanks a lot!!!! I can hardly wait to send some of my staff to you, just to be equals... (I just need a couple of years yet to build the subtropical paradise).
Rob

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