Tis the season! New fronds

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Tis the season! New fronds

Post by lucky1 » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:44 am

Must be the warmth from basement woodstove, and daily mistings...they're all taking off nicely again.

Here's the Spindle:
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The white stuff on Sabal uresana (at left) and mexicana are misting drops:
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Next is one of two little Brahea armata:
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Here's 1 of my 3 Triangles with a fully opened frond and a new spear coming:
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The Bamboo palm is going crazy...third new frond since bringing it inside:
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Chinese Fan just keeps on pushing:
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Cataractarum palm seems happy:
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Butia capitata responded nicely to repot:
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And in the Oh oh! category :lol: wish this Bottle Palm would open and stop stretching this spear!
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The Bottle Palm's bottle is busting its boots:
I still haven't got the right tool for cutting off the spent petiole. Probably need an exacto/lab knife.
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The Cordyline is growing despite low light in the hall.
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I can pretend it's not winter as long as I stay indoors :lol:
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Post by Knnn » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:50 am

Barb,

That Bottle Palm seems to have settled in nicely, everything looks healthy & happy 8)
Always nice to see new spears when it's snowing outside!

Here's a couple more.

Bismarckia,

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C.I.D.P.,


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Dypsis lutescens,

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:29 pm

Steve,
Yes, I just worry about it hitting the ceiling.

Neat how your Bizzie's green spear so quickly turns blue; these are gorgeous palms.

Looks like the CIDP is growing two at once! :)

That dypsis' new frond is truly nature at its most beautiful.

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Post by oppalm » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:58 pm

Barb and Steve - nice lookin' stuff you got there. I'll get my camera out this weekend and post some spear photos. I always love seeing other peoples plants this time of year. My Foxtail just opened a nice big frond. Look at it everyday and smile. If it only knew it was 4 hardiness zone removed from its home. Please do not tell it.
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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:34 pm

Thanks!
Yours are growing too...excellent.
Now get out that camera please.

I don't have a Foxtail, would love to see the new frond, and updated pics of your other stuff.
4 hardiness zone removed from its home. Please do not tell it
It has likely looked outside and knows how fortunate it is :lol:

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Post by oppalm » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:02 am

I took a few pictures Sun Dec 13, 2008 of a few of my larger palms and their emerging and just opened spears (as the case may be). Got more, will add later.

Here is my Mexican Fan Palm. This palm does suprising well inside in a west facing window. no bugs, no browning, no problems .... ever. This palm will throw 2-3 new fronds this winter. This is its 3rd winter inside, it is bascially maintenance free and looks great all winter. Although I recommend you keep your distance from it because it will jab you if you get too close.

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Phoenix Reclinata. 3 years old. This is a beautiful plam and relatively maintenance free.

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My Wodyetia Bifurcata (Foxtail) palm. Its stands about 7-8 foot tall and has been easy to grow inside. I have had this palm 2 years and it has easily doubled in size. A new spear just opened and you can see its a fairly large spear.
The new spear is the one in front, kind of skinny. It opened two weeks ago. This same palm had a spear that would not open all last winter so I feel kind fortunate that this one opened.

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The dreaded cocos nucifera (coconut). Just trying to get it through until springtime. Really I have had no problems with it but it seems to need very high humidity which I just can't provide inside (obviously). For crying out loud I live in Kansas, its winter time , the heats on and its dry even with a whole house humidifier. I do the best I can.


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Post by lucky1 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:20 pm

Kent, holy cow has your stuff ever grown this year!

Nice Mexican fan. Three recently emerged fronds and two or three more to come. That's one prolific palm.
That reclinata looks good too, and that Foxtail is superb.
What's a foxtail's potted (mature) height?

Re the cocos, have you got some space for it in the bathroom. Showers = great humidity as long as it's warm.

Your stuff is clean, good colour...well done.
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Post by oppalm » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:22 pm

Thank you Barb. The shower is a good idea , but I am a very modest man, it makes me nervous to shower when others are in the room :lol:
I do have a warm air humidifier in the room with the coco and in winter I run it twice a week for 24 hours at a time. It does pretty well.

Not sure of the mature height of a foxtail in a pot. I hope this one slows down because if it doubles in size over the next two years I am in trouble.
At this point I will leave it in the same container (about 15 gallon size) for the next 2-3 years.
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Post by Knnn » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:36 pm

Kent,
With your ceiling height you should be able to keep that Foxtail for quite a few years, Let's see how large you can grow that Coconut too 8)

Everything looks great!

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Post by lucky1 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:08 pm

Aw, shucks, the Cocos would look away!
And love you for it.

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Winter Solstice

Post by Knnn » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:41 am

At least from this point the days will start getting longer, and hopefully the cold will be a distant memory in a few months .....................

Here's a Rhapis excelsa with a new spear,

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And a Chamaedorea metallica too.

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Post by lucky1 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:31 am

Nice, Steve.

In a few months? :?
Hopefully sooner.

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Light Box

Post by lucky1 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:21 am

Anybody know about these LED boxes?
No pamphlet available at the store re how close to place this thing to plants.

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Post by lucky1 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:01 pm

Here come my 3 Dypsis decaryi:

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One frond fully open, here comes another spear:
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Spindle palm frond fully open:
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This is the 4th time the Bamboo (Reed) Palm has flowered this winter! :shock:
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A new leaf on the little Sabal mexicana
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And here comes a leaf on the Blue Hesper (Brahea armata) palm:
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Maybe...just maybe those funny lights are working on the little palms :)
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Post by oppalm » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:31 pm

nice work barb. your plants love your little piece of paradise. Great work with dypsis decaryi. Love those palms, I have two of them, fairly small but the heel is starting to get large. I know nothing about the LED lights but if it is working for you let us know. Looks kind of like you may be doing karoke in that room with the disco thang.
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:16 pm

Kent, thanks!
you may be doing karoke in that room with the disco thang
What gave it away...the old stereo cabinet, an ironing board, the hammer? :lol: :lol:

I love the triangles, too, none have shown a heel yet.
The Spindle, which wasn't much larger than one of the triangles a couple of years ago, has grown like mad and is now twice the height of my tallest dypsis.

I had the LED lights on since end December, about 15 hrs a day, on the seedling palms.
Room is kept at about 60 F.
The little palms have definitely responded to the red/blue light spectrum, even though the LED lites were situated farther away than recommended on the internet (about 8 inches).

You're lucky to have that cathedral ceiling for your tall foxtail. :D My house ceilings are all 8 feet...darn!

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Post by Knnn » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:26 pm

Barb,

Your Palms look great 8)

Things are starting to grow here again.



Joey starting it's second leaf,
(this is slow, but kept on growing through the cold :D

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a Salacca wallichiana seedling with a new bronze leaf,

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And lots of new stems starting on the Cat Palms,

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Post by lucky1 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:29 pm

Steve, thanks!

I had wondered how that Joey was doing...and how you're going to raise the GH roof when it grows its 15-foot long leaves. Looks good. :lol:

Nice leaf on that Salacca...only one older leaf that color?
I thought the emerging leaves were the only ones that showed that trait.

Your Cat palm looks good. Is that a second one immersed?
The roots must be spread out all over your pond by now!

You've still got some room in there :wink:
...wish I could send you some of my Papyrus, it loves the water too.

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Post by Knnn » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:19 am

The Salacca tends to open leafs as soon as they emerge, in a week or two, that leaf will be larger & about a foot taller.

Cat Palms are doing good, have a couple that have been growing fully submerged for a couple years now. The roots are growing up out of the containers and then down along the bottom of the tank.
(The fish seem to like the taste of them, but the Palms are winning :D

How did you start your Papyrus ? Does it overwinter?


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Post by lucky1 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:37 am

Steve,
I like the idea of bog palms, great for pond and fish environments.
Cataractarum palms would be good choices for people who tend to overwater their plants.

I got the Papyrus at a nursery.
There's not much to look at on mine, basically looks like a tall bunch of weedy grass when it's young.
But I saw John's (okanagandesertpalms) last year...8 feet tall and gorgeous! (the papyrus...not John :lol: :lol: sorry John)

Here's the "flowers" on mine:
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A non-draining saucer or bowl helps overwinter these indoors. In summer it's into the fishpond if it can handle full sun.
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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:10 pm

Barb I used to be 8ft tall and bullet proof depending what I was drinking at the bar.Lol :lol: Those were the days. The papyrus you got will be perfect for full sun and your fish pond the hotter the better . Are you fertilizing them now?

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:57 pm

John,
Heck of a way to get your attention, huh, John? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I myself had "those days", but thank goodness, memory fades.

I'm guessing papyrus, like some greenhouse-grown palms, will have to be slowly acclimatized to full sun at the fish pond.
Apparently they need high phosphorous fertilizer.
I haven't fertilized it yet.
What do you use?

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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:32 pm

Barb I use miracle grow for my Papyrus and they seem to like it. I`ve never done research into what numbers they like ex.12/4/12 and trace elements ect. BTW the bottle palm you picked up for me is doing great. New spear is almost opened now.


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Post by lucky1 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:22 am

Sounds like Miracle Gro is a great all purpose/all plant boost.
Your papyrus is 8 feet, so there's no reason for me to try anything else. :D

We'll look forward to seeing the Bottle Palm's new frond.
Mine is at a standstill (thank goodness)...8 inches from the ceiling :?
With your high ceilings, you just might have to overwinter mine next year :lol:

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Post by Knnn » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:31 pm

Thanks for the info on the Papyrus, maybe I'll give that a try!

Couple more photos...



New spear on a Astrocaryum,


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Salacca,


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Not sure which one this is,
(Just sort of popped up next to the Bowenia :D


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The robusta has been slowly growing all winter,

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:07 pm

Steve,
Wow, look at those spines already! :shock:

And that Robusta has gotten huge in short order.
Is the GH holding up the palm, or vice versa? :lol:

For sheer physical presence, the Robusta's a winner.

Must be wonderful being out in the GH again... :D

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Post by Knnn » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:50 pm

Thanks Barb!
No more icicles hanging from the roof, and nice to see things starting to grow 8)



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Post by Knnn » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:27 pm

Finally opening up new spears 8)

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Week or two later,

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This one was planted last Oct/Nov. (end of season sale)
Just starting to show growth.

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Seedlings are starting to take off too !


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Post by lucky1 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:05 pm

Fronds keep coming as plants are moved indoors:

Triangle Palm
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Spindle:
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Jelly palm:
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Post by lucky1 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:56 am

Repotted the Jelly Palm (Butia capitata).
Roots were coming out the bottom.

Love the recurving fronds.

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Post by BILL MA » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:56 pm

There a great palm for sure Barb. I'm going to get myself a wooly butia that I can put in the ground for my next house, if I have any money left....

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Post by lucky1 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:27 pm

A wooly butia?
Got a picture of one?

Are they hardier than the capitata?
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Edited: found a Wooly pictured...didn't know eriospatha's common name. Very nice.
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