Re-potting a sick Pygmy Date Palm & some misc.
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Re-potting a sick Pygmy Date Palm & some misc.
This one started to decline near the end of summer, (light green & yellowing of fronds)
Tried a fertilizer application with no effect, this is also a double, the smaller one still looks healthy
Decided a change of growing medium might help, this stuff is about 3 years old.
Removed about 50% of the old soil from the root ball.
And when done, moved inside to spend the remainder of the winter. Anything else I can do to help this one along
Steve
Tried a fertilizer application with no effect, this is also a double, the smaller one still looks healthy
Decided a change of growing medium might help, this stuff is about 3 years old.
Removed about 50% of the old soil from the root ball.
And when done, moved inside to spend the remainder of the winter. Anything else I can do to help this one along
Steve
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A couple more that are spending the winter inside,
Another Pygmy Date Palm, Phoenix roebelenii
CIDP,Phoenix canariensis
A couple Bismarckias, Bismarckia nobilis
Steve
Another Pygmy Date Palm, Phoenix roebelenii
CIDP,Phoenix canariensis
A couple Bismarckias, Bismarckia nobilis
Steve
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nice work there Steve. I have had excellent luck digging PDP's out of the ground and repotting each fall. They are tough palms. Keep it warm and it should perk up in no time. Nice Bismarckia. One of my favorites. Yours look great. Did you start those from seed?
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Thanks Kent, and for the words of encouragement too!
The Bismarckias & CIDP's were started from seed about 3 years ago, The Pygmy Dates came from Wal-Mart, maybe that is the problem?
Steve
The Bismarckias & CIDP's were started from seed about 3 years ago, The Pygmy Dates came from Wal-Mart, maybe that is the problem?
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A little closer look shows what might be a fungal problem occurring........................................
Have started treating the crown with hydrogen peroxide, will keep my fingers crossed and report the results.
Steve
Have started treating the crown with hydrogen peroxide, will keep my fingers crossed and report the results.
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I think I would start treating with a systemic also. I use mine sparingly with very good results. use it 3-4 times as needed over the course of a month.
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Thanks Kent, I'll see what I can find.
Steve
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Barrie,
That was an attempt to deter a couple indoor cats, not with much success either......
Steve
That was an attempt to deter a couple indoor cats, not with much success either......
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Steve, your example is a reminder to us all that containerized palms need more care...
Perhaps it was salt build-up from fertilizers, a typical problem for containers.
Three years is approx what I've done too...removing old soil and refreshing.
Your PDP's roots have good colour.
I gave mine some Epsom Salts in summer, and got a nice green up within 10 days.
Good that you caught possible fungus problem early.
Some Florida websites state their biggest problem which may contribute to lethal yellowing is lack of Potassium.
But if you're using palm fertilizer that wouldn't be a problem.
Please let us know if hydrogen peroxide cleared up the problem.
I love the "boots" on tall trunks on your PDPs.
Wow, how the others have grown this year!
Barb
Perhaps it was salt build-up from fertilizers, a typical problem for containers.
Three years is approx what I've done too...removing old soil and refreshing.
Your PDP's roots have good colour.
I gave mine some Epsom Salts in summer, and got a nice green up within 10 days.
Good that you caught possible fungus problem early.
Some Florida websites state their biggest problem which may contribute to lethal yellowing is lack of Potassium.
But if you're using palm fertilizer that wouldn't be a problem.
Please let us know if hydrogen peroxide cleared up the problem.
I love the "boots" on tall trunks on your PDPs.
Wow, how the others have grown this year!
Barb
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Barb,
Some of the fronds are browning out now from the re-potting. That was expected, and a sign that it's still alive
Other than that, no change for better or worse............................
Had to take the van to town to pick up Sheetrock today, came back with this
A Dypsis lutescens marked down to $12.00, some of the stems are a good size.
Steve
Some of the fronds are browning out now from the re-potting. That was expected, and a sign that it's still alive
Other than that, no change for better or worse............................
Had to take the van to town to pick up Sheetrock today, came back with this
A Dypsis lutescens marked down to $12.00, some of the stems are a good size.
Steve
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Update on the Pygmy Date
Over the last two months...
Has been steadilly declining, tried Hydrogen Peroxide & a copper based fungicide. As of yesterday, the crown had pretty much collapsed.
Took about 3" off the top, the meristem still looks good, so maybe it will grow out.
Steve
Has been steadilly declining, tried Hydrogen Peroxide & a copper based fungicide. As of yesterday, the crown had pretty much collapsed.
Took about 3" off the top, the meristem still looks good, so maybe it will grow out.
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Mine seem to suffer when kept too dry.
The three inches you removed...soggy and pulpy?
I have no experience with the process, and hope it comes back quickly for you.
Will watch for your updates.
Barb
The three inches you removed...soggy and pulpy?
I have no experience with the process, and hope it comes back quickly for you.
Will watch for your updates.
Barb
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bummer steve. reminds me of a haircut I got one time at a cut rate place. I think I agree with Barb about salt build up in containers. I repot most everything with fresh soil every 2-3 years. when they start to decline for no apparent reason, it usually is a soil problem. I had a liv cheninsis that was looking bad towards the end of last summer for no apparent reason, when i went to repot it there must have been a million (yes million) ants in the soil. I was dancing around the backyard as the ants were climbing my legs and my arms after I disturbed their nest. I watered the roots off and it is in the basement under lights and looking fantastic, thank you very much.
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Barb,
Was still solid, although a bit damp. Some mold was evident behind the leaf bases.
I have no idea if this will help Will post the results either way.
Kent,
Your story triggered flashbacks to a traumatic experience I had last summer...............
Steve
Was still solid, although a bit damp. Some mold was evident behind the leaf bases.
I have no idea if this will help Will post the results either way.
Kent,
Your story triggered flashbacks to a traumatic experience I had last summer...............
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Hey Steve,
any chance the cats DID pee on it (despite the mesh?)
I often place fairly big rocks on top of the soil, not for cats, but to prevent top-heavy plants in pots from falling over in high winds.
But I've heard rocks work to prevent cats piddling on soil.
Barb
any chance the cats DID pee on it (despite the mesh?)
I often place fairly big rocks on top of the soil, not for cats, but to prevent top-heavy plants in pots from falling over in high winds.
But I've heard rocks work to prevent cats piddling on soil.
Barb
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Barb,
I hope not A good point though, will keep an eye on things.
Steve
I hope not A good point though, will keep an eye on things.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. My old cat....God rest his soul.....got a chinese fan of mine. No his death had noting to do with the palm..LOL.any chance the cats DID pee on it (despite the mesh?)
PDP are still the toughest palm for me to keep alive during winter. I have better luck with a Majesty palm!!
Not the pot I was expecting........
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Someone else said they couldn't grow a PDP...forget who, yet they successfully grow everything else.
The only thing I remind myself about my PDP is not to let it get as dry as my other palms.
Every couple of days I sprinkle a cup or so of water just to keep the top of soil from drying out.
If I let the top of soil go really dry, it wilts and sulks for two weeks.
Sheesh, could the chinese fan have poisoned your cat?
The only thing I remind myself about my PDP is not to let it get as dry as my other palms.
Every couple of days I sprinkle a cup or so of water just to keep the top of soil from drying out.
If I let the top of soil go really dry, it wilts and sulks for two weeks.
Sheesh, could the chinese fan have poisoned your cat?
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Barb,
I have found the opposite to be true with every PDP I have had. Keeping the soil moist has led to fungus problems time after time for me. My current one is doing a bit better this winter. I have it growing in VERY well drained soil in a pot just big enough for the root system and water it once a month. We shall see......
I have found the opposite to be true with every PDP I have had. Keeping the soil moist has led to fungus problems time after time for me. My current one is doing a bit better this winter. I have it growing in VERY well drained soil in a pot just big enough for the root system and water it once a month. We shall see......
Not the pot I was expecting........
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Craig,
They adopt mine, and theirs croaks. AAARGH!
So we'll blame (or credit) cats!
Barb
That's what's so frustrating sometimes. I follow somebody else's cultural info and mine croaks.opposite to be true with every PDP I have had
They adopt mine, and theirs croaks. AAARGH!
So we'll blame (or credit) cats!
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Just a bit of a followup......................
Had no luck getting rid of whatever was eating away the crown
kept trimming away material until there was, well.... nothing left
Ended up cutting that trunk out, the other one in the container still looks good.
The others have been growing all winter, the challenge is getting them acclimated to sunlight again when they go back outside.
Steve
Had no luck getting rid of whatever was eating away the crown
kept trimming away material until there was, well.... nothing left
Ended up cutting that trunk out, the other one in the container still looks good.
The others have been growing all winter, the challenge is getting them acclimated to sunlight again when they go back outside.
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Steve,
Thanks for the new pics.
Since your other "two-some" is doing so well, we can rule out that these need to have pups separated from the mother.
Besides many mature pictures I've seen show PDPs in groups of 2, 3--even 5. So that's not the problem.
A darn shame, Steve, to have to cut that all the way down.
It'll be interesting to see if the remaining one will, from a shared root system, now put on a real growth spurt.
Barb
Thanks for the new pics.
Since your other "two-some" is doing so well, we can rule out that these need to have pups separated from the mother.
Besides many mature pictures I've seen show PDPs in groups of 2, 3--even 5. So that's not the problem.
A darn shame, Steve, to have to cut that all the way down.
It'll be interesting to see if the remaining one will, from a shared root system, now put on a real growth spurt.
Barb
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Hi Barb,
These are separate plants, it's just the nursery practice of throwing a pile of seeds in one container that gives us all these doubles,triples,etc.
Here is an interesting tidbit,
Here's a link to the true clumping form, Phoenix roebelenii var. reasoneri
http://www.palmsnc.org/pages/palm_detail.php?id=123
I do like the look of solitary Palms in containers, hoping the one that's left will do well!
Steve
These are separate plants, it's just the nursery practice of throwing a pile of seeds in one container that gives us all these doubles,triples,etc.
Here is an interesting tidbit,
http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Phoenix/roebelenii.htmlInterestingly enough, all the cultivated plants are single trunked, yet in the wild, they are all clumping, and single trunked specimens haven't been found.
Here's a link to the true clumping form, Phoenix roebelenii var. reasoneri
http://www.palmsnc.org/pages/palm_detail.php?id=123
I do like the look of solitary Palms in containers, hoping the one that's left will do well!
Steve
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Thanks for the links, interesting trait that in the wild they're never solitary.
I hope your remaining palm in that pot will astound you with its growth this year.
Barb
I hope your remaining palm in that pot will astound you with its growth this year.
Barb
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too bad about the stem. oh well. if there were no challenges to this hobby it would be no fun. I mean, imagine if all your palm trees grew to 10 feet tall with no problems and no work. That would not be any fun. It is a shame when you lose a nice tree, but now you can look for another one.
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