Moved the Pachypodiums outside....

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:36 pm

These sat in a corner all Winter and had about a 1/2" of dust on them

Re-potted, cleaned off and ready for a new season.

Steve

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:24 am

They are looking good.

Did you start any of them from seed?

Allen

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:47 am

Steve, I pot planted mine outside last week. Then came those two days of sustained 40-50 MPH winds (not gusts, but sustained) and they lost a few leaves. But they have LOVED it so far. Sure you know this, but give them lots of water with this new Sun and within 2 days you will have lots of leaves.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:06 pm

Nice!
What do you think the max height will be with proper care?
Probably the GH roof??

My new Pachy hasn't grown an inch this winter in the sunny south window.
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:15 pm

Set yours outside once temps start to get above 70's (and maybe bring them inside if lows are below 50's) and water really well. You will be able to visably see new growth in a week.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:10 pm

Thanks for the tip.
This waiting for warm weather is affecting their development.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:17 am

Barb,

Not sure on the max. height, seem to grow about 1' - 2' a year on average.
If I can get them to bloom, they might start branching.

Allen,

Those originally were small ones from the discount plant rack at WalMart

Have some Pachypodium geayi started from seed a couple years ago, they are just starting to pick up speed.

Steve

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:02 am

Thanks Steve.

I just germinated 2 P. Geayi and was wondering how long it would be before they showed a little size.

Allen

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:32 am

Steve, are the two Geayi you gave me from seed? WOW, if so we have done good as they are REALLY starting to put on some growth after I potted them up a size.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:41 pm

Wes,

Those P.geayi are from the same batch, full sun & water and they will take off

Steve

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat May 03, 2008 11:34 am

I saw lots of them outside in Orlando. All look in fantastic shape.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:21 pm

Some warm days, and the first signs of life

( re- potted these when they first went out, probably slowed them down a bit)

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:49 pm

Nice start Steve.
My Pachy doesn't seem to be doing much this year since I planted it in the ground.
Weather is either cool or blazing hot, it's sulking a bit.
Hoping for a growth spurt soon.

Yours looks very healthy.
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:42 am

Mine are absolutely BOOMING. I am at work right now, but will try to remember to take a pic later. I put them out front where they get solid morning sun up until about 2:00pm.
Lucky, as soon as you start hitting days with high 70's low 80's for highs and 60's for lows, WATCH OUT.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:39 am

Will look forward to that.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:43 am

There all off and running now

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:54 am

Those Pachypodiums (pachipodii?

) have grown so much since last year.
So tropical looking that these could indeed "double" as y.rostrata--albeit spiny--for those of us who are impatient.

Before my big pachypodium died a couple of years ago, I noticed it held its head of leaves virtually year round as it was in the house during winter.
That's probably why yours are making such growth spurts to put out more/new leaves?

Probably the nutrient rich fish-water too!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:06 pm

I've tried them both ways, if they hold their leaves during the winter, they start growing earlier in the season.

I tried to slow mine down a little by letting them go dormant last winter, don't really think it is going to make a difference

( You should see the fish now, they are about 1' long, how large do goldfish grow

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:37 pm

Your fish are a foot long?

I've heard that goldfish grow according to the size of the pond...given enough space they can get pretty large.

Bigger fish = more fertilizer

I believe Pachypodium lamerei reach 12-15 feet in habitat.
Yours are well on their way.

Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:50 am

Sorry took so long...
Pachypodium lamerei
6/26/08

P.geayi
6/26/08
These are in the greenhouse full time. If I give them water, you can almost hear them growing.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:01 pm

Beautiful specimens Wes
Any particular fertilizer (besides the cow manure?)
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:17 pm

You know what, I do not use cow manure on these. The manure only goes on cycad/dioons.
With these, I kept in the greenhouse over winter and when temps got higher than 60 with lows no lower than high 40's, I put them outside in the landscape. People told me that I was going to kill them cause it was still too cold. But I proved them wrong

So basically, no secret, just LOTS of unfiltered bright direct sunlight and water.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:37 pm

Then they obviously like your potting mix.
Mine has yellowish leaves, and my soil is alkaline about 7.2.
Thinking they might prefer somewhat more acidic conditions?

Steve, are yours in alkaline or acidic based soil?
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:27 pm

Barb,
The mix I'm using starts out around 7.0, but will drop to 5.5 - 6 in time due to our water.

I have noticed with mine that the lower leaves will turn yellow when it is not getting enough water, while the newest growth will turn black when it is getting too much.

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:59 am

As usual, Steve, excellent information.
I'll pay more attention to its care in the future.
Thanks.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:04 pm

And here they are this year...............

This one kept growing throughout the winter,
(it's happy inside, I'll leave it there

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:48 pm

Wow, look at the size of those things!
And nice colour on that one in the GH.

Maybe you can give me a tip on what I've done wrong.
Leaves are all speckled.

This little guy never was very healthy.
I doubt it'll get as big as the one that got left outside when it froze a couple of years ago.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:31 pm

Barb, Thanks for the comments!
With yours, I remember you checking it last year for mites,etc. Maybe there is something in the potting mix it doesn't like?

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:17 pm

I think you're right.
I'll repot it this weekend.

Thank you.
Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:56 pm

Well it was going from bad to worse.
Finally repotted it.

Roots were dry as a bone:

I think the best thing I could do for this guy would be to send it to the dump.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:11 am

Barb, How is yours doing after the re potting?

The ones I moved out are starting to wake up now,

The one in the GH still moving along,
(not the best thing to put next to a walkway

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:13 pm

Steve, I might be able to take a pic later, but this Spring, I put mine outside and it developed what almost looked like center rot. I went ahead and left it out side and the center got black. However since then, it is now booming with growth, but from about 9 different "scales" or growing points. Will this now be a 9 headed Pachy?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:46 pm

Wes, It will start branching from that point

Do what you can to help the wound heal.

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:46 pm

When in doubt REPOT, REPOT, REPOT!

Mine seems to have gotten over its speckled, diseased looking leaf phase finally.
Thanks for suggesting I repot it instead of tossing it out.

New leaves are clean but small.
Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:24 pm

If we don't want them to branch at that point, can we cut off the new stuff to encourage it to get taller on a single stem?
Or would that lead to 18 points?

I agree Pachy lamerei aren't great near a sidewalk, but the absolute worst thing is a Ponytail Palm.
Mine's like razor wire, and just touching it leads to blood dots on bare legs.
I may put it on the roof

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:29 pm

Noticed the tallest one here is starting to branch

It's the one in the back,

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:56 am

It'll be interesting to see how long the branches become...
you'll have to nail that container to the floor

Your Bizzie has grown so much, it's stunning!
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:30 pm

Thanks Barb, The Bismarckia sits in full sun all summer long, really brings out the color!
Going to try and find a spot for the Pachypodium inside the greenhouse, taking it in & out of the house each year is getting dangerous ( I always end up full of holes afterwards

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:40 pm

The Pachy will enjoy the sunny greenhouse this winter.
Those thorns look even more lethal as the plant ages.

Mine is nowhere near your plant's size, but I wrap about 15 pages of newspaper around the stem and tie it with masking tape, making it not so dangerous to handle.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:09 pm

Last time I moved it, wrapped it in towels and had leather gloves on. It shifted on the dolly coming up the steps and turned me into a pincushion

This is how I keep them warm at night..... lol

Steve

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