Indoor Palms are growing!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:31 pm

Must be the warmth and 3x/day misting, combined with more frequent sunshine this winter,
(except today...snowing like mad).

But does this mean they won't grow this spring/summer???

Triangle palm:

Spindle:

Still not sure what this one is:

and a few of the great palms I got from Barrie: Sabal mexicana, S.palmetto, and others.

from Barrie, Trachy Naini Tal, which is growing despite being in the cold room:

Barb

Laaz · Post by **Laaz** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:10 pm

Nice plants Barb. I bet that Sabal palmetto came from here http://www.follybeach.com/

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:14 pm

Thanks Todd,

But does this mean they won't grow this spring/summer???

kinda concerns me that they're growing NOW.

You can tell I needed that link?!

I'm ready to rent one of those beach cottages.
You're livin' in paradise, Todd.

Barb

Laaz · Post by **Laaz** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:17 pm

Barb Sabal palmettos are quite hardy. They can take down into the mid - lower teens for brief shots. What the really need is a lot of heat in the summer. They should do well for you.

Barrie · Post by **Barrie** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:26 pm

Ya ... it's not unusual to see temps over 100f (in the summer) where Barb lives.

Cheers, Barrie.

Dean W. · Post by **Dean W.** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:51 am

Your palms are doing great!

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:54 am

Nice plants.

You have a green thumb.

Allen

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:40 am

Thanks folks.

REPEAT (HALLLOOOOOO?)

but DOES THIS MEAN THEY WON'T GROW
THIS SUMMER???

Sorry to yell, but want your thoughts on it.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:04 am

Hi Barb,
They will keep growing

Palm growth in optimum conditions is continuous.
Just be careful of the Winter growth this Spring, it can sunburn very easily.

( Phoenix roebelenii is real touchy....)

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:36 am

Great thanks...reason I asked is that these are new in the last 6 months.
Plants I've had years and years don't grow in winter, even in the warm house.
So I tell them

"hold on, this isn't summer yet."

Another question: why is the new Chinese Fan getting so WIDE

It's not wilting, just "sagging". Still pushing new fronds.
I keep soil damp, mist frequently. Twice as wide as it was in the nursery GH
It'd be unsightly to tie it back up into a more vertical position.

oops, and I pruned up the P.roebellenii...it's growing like mad too.

Barb

Dean W. · Post by **Dean W.** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:55 am

Your going to run out of house there, Barb, if that Palm gets much wider.

Dean

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:00 am

Yes, Dean, that's the problem.
It was so nice and...vertical...when I bought it.

Could it be stretching sideways due to no competitition for space?

Barb

Dean W. · Post by **Dean W.** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:03 am

I don't think so, it looks like that's the nature of the palm.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:29 am

It looks like it is just stretching out a bit,
They grow these packed tightly together to produce a taller plant. When grown in decent light, the petioles are much shorter.

I think my P.roebellenii has put on more growth inside than it did last Summer

yours should start putting on some trunk this season.

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:38 am

Aha, that's it...it doesn't have to compete for light!
Into a closet with it

kidding!

I find the delicate fronds and arching stems of P.roebellenii stunning ...
groups can be lovelier than a single specimen.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:39 am

I like them too!

Have a small forest of them in my dining room

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:13 am

Oooooh, gorgeous trunks on those!
Barb

Cali-wanna-b · Post by **Cali-wanna-b** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:41 am

Another question: why is the new Chinese Fan getting so WIDE
It's not wilting, just "sagging". Still pushing new fronds.
I keep soil damp, mist frequently. Twice as wide as it was in the nursery GH
It'd be unsightly to tie it back up into a more vertical position.

Barb,

The big one I got is doing the same thing. Darn thing is about 8' wide now!! I think Steve nailed it. The more sun, the shorter, more compact they are. I had to cut off a few fronds so I could find my couch....

Pygmy people....how do you get your pygmys to look so good!?!?! Out of all my palms I have the hardest time keeping mine looking good. I have a humidifier set up by it. It gets about 5 hours of sun a day. I let the soil dry out a little before watering and mine still just puts along. I also just learned that they do not like Neem oil. I gave it a pre-cautionary spray and alot of the leaves turned brown and dried up on it. I just can't seem to win with them.

Craig

macario · Post by **macario** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:44 pm

Thats great!! Be happy soon spring will be here and you will be ahead of everyone else!!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:11 pm

Early growth just means they'll peter out ahead of everyone else's

cut off a few fronds so I could find my couch

that's hilarious, Craig!
So is "pygmy people"

Barb

Okanagan desert-palms · Post by **Okanagan desert-palms** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:30 pm

Barb most of these Chinese fan palms are grown either outside under shade cloth or in indoor greenhouses with overhead lighting. This is why you see the long petiols connecting the frond. I find after a couple of years with regular sun you will too will see these petiols shorten to the way nature intended.

John

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:12 pm

I wasn't aware that the vertical/horizontal aspect could be manipulated.
Hmmm, it'll go in a crowded, shady patio spot this summer to try and recapture the vertical look.
Barb

Barrie · Post by **Barrie** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:25 am

I noticed The Home Depot here had Phoenix roebelenii for sale. They where grouped 4 to a pot in varing heights with the largest having about a foot of trunk for $69. I passed more because I want a single specimen and not a group. I plan on planting one this spring if I can find a single. I don't have the patience to separate the roots from the multiples, so that's out.

Cheers, Barrie.

Laaz · Post by **Laaz** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:07 pm

separating the roots is very easy. Pull the plant out of the pot & lay it on its side. Use a jet sprayer on the end of your hose & work your way around the root ball. Once you have flushed all the soil from the root ball they should separate quite easy. I do this all the time. Finding a single is hard unless you find a nursery that sells them for planting in the yard. Most all that are produced for pot culture are planted 3-4 to a pot.

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:00 am

Barrie,
I have one and with three trunks. I planted it in a pot last April and kept it outside. It got down to 4C one night and low and behold the spears pulled out on two of them. They have since recovered but I have never put it outside since then. Not a very hardy species in my opinion unless I did something wrong causing the spears to pull out.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:54 am

Once you have flushed all the soil from the root ball they should separate quite easy.

Excellent idea Todd.
Will use water from now on!
Mud up to the elbows

but the technique ought to save roots from breaking.
Barb

Barrie · Post by **Barrie** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:39 am

Humm ... thanks for the info Todd. I assumed that even using your method, the roots would be nearly impossible to de-tangle. Obviously that's not the case so maybe I'll reconsider and buy one, or in this case 4.

Wes ... These are reliable in frost free locations and even rated as survivor in zone 9b. It needs fertile soil and routine watering while in growth. My plan is to give it a 'primo' location and use an insulated enclosure for winter. They're small enough in over all dimensions so it is relatively easy.

Cheers, Barrie.

oppalm · Post by **oppalm** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:25 am

Barb - mine has done the same thing. I took some green twine , tied the darn thing up so it would not take up so much room in the winter. I'll unleash the beast in spring time when it goes outside to the patio.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:05 am

oppalm, I had to move mine.
Turns out I need to get around the kitchen (darn...)

I'm still resisting tying the chinese fan palm, but that may be the only solution.
String generally causes petiole damage.
And pantyhose would look ridiculous...

Barb

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