Musa Basjoo Zone 5b winter protection.

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:30 pm

Here is pictures of how I protected my Musa Basjoo plants. Used the same style last year but this year used pink insulation instead of shrink wrap. I noticed shrink wrap held in moisture. Still Basjoo survived no problem last winter.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:06 am

So no heat tape, Keith?
Or did you forget it?

Great that they're facing east, protected by the house.
The worst weather blows down from the northwest at my place.

Barb

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:52 pm

Hey Barb. If you check out the 6th picture you will see a tan heat tape. It also does the Camellia beside it.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:51 pm

That outta do'er whats the on/off temp on the heat tape?

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Hey hardyjim it says on the package the heat tape turns on and stays on if the tempature is colder than 3C or colder than 38 F.
Keith

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:44 am

Yup, see it now.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:08 pm

hasty22 wrote:Hey hardyjim it says on the package the heat tape turns on and stays on if the tempature is colder than 3C or colder than 38 F.
Keith

As Curly used to say-

poifect!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:50 am

Looks great. Lucky they are close to the building too, that adds heat too.

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:59 pm

Nice protection Hasty, ill try this year the same protection than my palms. Small Styrofoam box with a 13 watts CFL bulb with thermocube 2-7c. Will see next spring.

Ben

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:21 pm

Thanks for the comments. Beny I was wondering what a thermocube is? Also some people say you dont get much heat from a cfl bulb. I have never used bulbs so I can't say. good luck!
Keith

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:25 pm

Hasty,a thermocube is like a electronic thermostat with 2 plug. Google thermocube and you ll see. A CFL bulb do the job when you use stryrofoam for your box. Thats build the heat slowly inside, i actually use another system for my Washingtonia. I use heat cable 40 feets 200 watts for a 6 feets tall styrofoam box, 2 feets wide with thermocube. Its a bit to much, better using 20 feets cable. My cable heat to much, reaching 18c ( -1c outside) and go down in few hour to +5c, after that the thermocube restard the cable for another +18c...
A small heat cable like 100-150 watts its better..

Ben

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:46 am

Keith,

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p ... &_from=R40

I use a T-3 thermocube inside my palm hut.
When temps get below 35F, its thermostat kicks on the ceramic heater.
Thermocube kicks heater off at 45F, so it never freezes inside the hut.

Also use a T-3 (there are different types that go on/off at different temps) inside the Washy enclosure.
There it turns on C-9 Christmas lights in a long set of strings that go to the other Washy enclosure too.
And the 3 yuccas in between the 2 Washy enclosures.

But you don't need a thermocube if you're using a pipe heating tape wrapped around your palm.
Because that's got its own thermostat.

Barb

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:19 pm

Im agree Barb, i use that T3 too...do the job well.

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:18 pm

Thanks guys that looks like they would work. learn something new every day.
Keith

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:56 pm

dont get much heat from a cfl bulb

Keith, you're right.
A CFL emits approx. one-third the heat of incandescent.

See "heat emitted" under Important Facts (near bottom of page)

http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:50 am

35/45F T-cube is the only one to use for sure.

If you live somewhere cold and use the 10/20F or 20/30F and your structure
is not made to warm up during the day,you have a very real possibility of it staying below freezing.

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:51 pm

Sounds great , I will have to get some t- cubes for next winter , one question does the t-cube go inside the structure or outside? So what do we do now wait till next spring and see if our winter protection is a success? Or do we buy more tropicals? Get some seeds? take a holiday? lol

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:54 am

Keith,

does the t-cube go inside the structure or outside?

It goes where you want the protection to kick in, plugged into your heat (either C-9 lights or if it's a big structure, into a ceramic heater).

Using my palm hut (plywood building) as an example, I have an extension cord attached to the house.
It runs into the palm hut.
About 3'feet off the ground the extension cord is plugged into a thermocube.
Then the ceramic heater is plugged into the thermocube.
The heater is set to "mediium" and kicks on when the thermocube reacts to 35F temp.
And then heater goes off when the max thermocube temp is reached (45 I think).

So what do we do now wait till next spring and see if our winter protection is a success? Or do we buy more tropicals? Get some seeds? take a holiday? lol

All of the above

Barb

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:53 pm

Uncovered musa basjoo today . Looks good. Looks like it might get quite tall this year.

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canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:01 pm

hasty22 wrote:Uncovered musa basjoo today . Looks good. Looks like it might get quite tall this year.

Good jobe Keith. I would say there is no "might", seeing as they look 4 - 6 feet tall as it is.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:08 pm

Looks like it might get quite tall this year.

Its leaves will double as curtains for upstairs windows.
Good work Keith.

Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:02 pm

Wow, great job with the basjoo protection.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Looks good! I uncovered mine this past weekend. They're lovin the 80 degree temps this week....and so am i finally Spring!!!!!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:46 am

How tall do they reach in the heat of summer??

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:47 pm

It was about 9 feet last year I am thinking 12 feet this year which is about the top of living room window. The gutters are 13-14 feet.
Below is a picture taken last April

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Below is a picture last fall

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This picture below was taken today, so I kept most or all the trunk that I gained last year.

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sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:56 pm

Looks great. It'll do well. Nice camelia too, I love them. Mine are huge this year. Mine bloom in November/December, when do yours bloom?

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:00 pm

Thanks Mike just got it last spring , so it has not bloomed since, but it was covered up for winter. I will see if it survives this spring.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:53 pm

hasty22 wrote:Thanks Mike just got it last spring , so it has not bloomed since, but it was covered up for winter. I will see if it survives this spring.

good luck~ post pics!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:24 pm

My musas that i uncovered (3 wks ago) are staring to turn yellowish and putting out funky bent leaves????? HELP! Any info appreciated!

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:31 pm

Hey Mike mine are looking a little tattered since I took that picture we had a couple of frosts so had to cover them up. You should be frost free in zone 7 now. If you are frost free now just feed it some miracle grow and water and it should pick up once the heat hits. Can you post a picture? We all like pictures ( lol)
Keith

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:40 pm

hasty22 wrote:Hey Mike mine are looking a little tattered since I took that picture we had a couple of frosts so had to cover them up. You should be frost free in zone 7 now. If you are frost free now just feed it some miracle grow and water and it should pick up once the heat hits. Can you post a picture? We all like pictures ( lol)
Keith

Thanks Keith. I t really has been the chilliest and cloudiest April I have had since I don't know when. That could be it. Here are a few pics. Good luck with yours!

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:38 pm

Hey Mike looking good I loved that summer shot they are huge . It looks like you get a bit of wind as the leaves looked a little torn. My basjoo is in front of a east facing wall and is sheltered fairly well. I do not get a lot of wind in my area. I think your banana plant will do just great once the warm weather hits. The first few leaves will look a little weird from frost or cold weather.
Keith

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:38 am

hasty22 wrote:Hey Mike looking good I loved that summer shot they are huge . It looks like you get a bit of wind as the leaves looked a little torn. My basjoo is in front of a east facing wall and is sheltered fairly well. I do not get a lot of wind in my area. I think your banana plant will do just great once the warm weather hits. The first few leaves will look a little weird from frost or cold weather.
Keith

Thanks. I guess we have just been spoiled form the warms winters and springs the three years before this one. This year has been a true winter and cool spring. Should get to 74 and sunny today though: that may help??? Good luck with yours.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:52 am

Mike, yup, that's cold and wind damage.
Your heat oughta get them going now.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:47 pm

lucky1 wrote:Mike, yup, that's cold and wind damage.
Your heat oughta get them going now.

Barb

I hope so Barb, It has been too chilly here!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:22 am

Your temp looks good now, Mike.
You'll once again be standing under them for a photo in no time.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:34 pm

lucky1 wrote:Your temp looks good now, Mike.
You'll once again be standing under them for a photo in no time.

Barb

They are grwoing nicely, just oddly, LOL

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:29 pm

Probably indicating where cold damage occurred.
There's nothing like a Musa, though, to explode with growth once heat hits.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:28 pm

lucky1 wrote:Probably indicating where cold damage occurred.
There's nothing like a Musa, though, to explode with growth once heat hits.

Barb

So true Barb!

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:37 pm

My Musa Basjoo is finally flowering . Hope I get bananas soon!!!

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