Young sabal "mexicana" heat casualty?

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Young sabal "mexicana" heat casualty?

Post by lucky1 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:57 pm

Damn! This little guy has dry leaves, not quite crunchy. :(
but a new 1" spear is coming.

Think it'll survive?

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Post by BILL MA » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:31 pm

Looks like it will be fine Barb. Man has it been hot in the Pacific North West this year, really weird weather.

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Post by ronbruce » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:35 pm

Barb, that spear looks good. I think it'll recover.

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:27 am

The camera didn't show how dry those leaves are.

The little spear is the only thing fresh and green looking.

Thanks, I hope it survives.

It's staying in the shade from now on, as most young palms should!

The Pacific NW (and interior) is starting to resemble California for heat, lack of rain, and fires! maybe even Earthquakes!
:(

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Post by oppalm » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:19 pm

I've had a couple of sabal minors that have done the same thing with the outer fronds/leaves. I think when they are young they are prone to drying out. Yours looks OK. You could always dry the leaves out and smoke 'em ..... if you know what I mean?
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Post by lucky1 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:10 pm

Hi Kent,
did your sabals recover? or croak?

Yup, gotcha! :lol:
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Post by BILL MA » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:36 pm

Barb hopefully no fires or earth quakes, leave that to California!

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:48 pm

Similarities over the last 10 years with California can't be ignored...
Today's the first day in nearly 2 weeks the smoke has cleared enough to see the mountains.
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Post by BILL MA » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:00 pm

Sorry to hear that, hopefully things will change in the future.

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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:02 pm

Barb was it a missed when watering everything else? I`ve lost a 3 gal. Sabal Louisiana and a couple of other Sabal sp. after watering it from a complete dry pot because I missed it watering the others. The new spear looked healthy only to have it also wither away a couple weeks later. If this is the case I would give it some B1 vitamin (Thrive alive) and rooting hormone to give it the best shot at regenerating it`s roots. I hope I`m wrong looking at your pics. Enough of these fires here and I hope they do the same in L.A.

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Post by oppalm » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:19 am

I've had a few live but most of them shrivel up and die. Yours has a spear emerging so you'll probably be ok. Don't give up on them though. If all the leaves dry out , cut them off, and maintain the plant as usual, water, keep in sunlight etc. I have had more than one regrow , albeit very slowly.
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:38 am

John, yes, I did miss it when watering during our heatwave(s).
Also, the patio chair that protected it from blistering afternoon sun fell over in the wind.
I didn't notice for a couple of weeks.
Those black plastic pots really overheat the soil.

You lost a 3 gallon Sabal? Wow, that'd be hard to take...what a shame.

Kent, this wasn't a fast grower to begin with, but it may be doomed now.

I will give it some Thrive, maybe even repot into a heavier soil to hold a bit of water.

Thanks folks.
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:57 am

You guys were right!
The spear is growing, but rest of leaves are now brown and crunchy.

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Post by BILL MA » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:48 pm

Looks better now with the nice new green then before. Glad it made it Barb, I would plant it in the ground next year for it's reward!

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Post by lucky1 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:15 pm

Thanks folks.
Will do Bill
Glad it survived...I didn't want to lose this little guy.
Man, they're sure touchy on heat.

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Post by BILL MA » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:34 pm

Barb I'm sure it will laugh at any heat you could give it if it was watered well in the ground. Jim and I talked for quiete some time on the phone the other day. We talked about how important it is about getting the roots as strong as possible with root stimulizer and potasium for the first few years. Along with other palm stuff. I think I might even hit my palms now with a good root stimulizer while the ground is still warm.

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Post by lucky1 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:13 pm

Yup, trace elements play a big factor.
And my little palms didn't get any of that.
I'm learning.
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