Yucca update 2012

Discuss anything about yuccas here.

Moderators: lucky1, Alchris, Kansas, Wes North Van, Laaz

Post Reply
User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Yucca update 2012

Post by TimMAz6 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:55 pm

It's been a very mild winter.....one of the warmest on record. Lowest temperature was +5F (-15C). We have had 17.8 inches (45 cm) of snow. Here's an update on the Yuccas:

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1669.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1670.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1671.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1672.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1673.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1674.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1675.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1676.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1677.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1678.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1679.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1680.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1681.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1682.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1683.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1684.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1685.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1686.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1687.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1688.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1689.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1690.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1691.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1692.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1693.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1694.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1695.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1696.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1697.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1698.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1699.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1700.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1701.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1702.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1703.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1704.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1705.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1706.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1707.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1708.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1709.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1710.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1711.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1712.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1713.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1714.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1715.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1716.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1717.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1718.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1719.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1720.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1721.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1722.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1723.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1724.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1725.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1726.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1727.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1728.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1729.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1730.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1731.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1732.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1733.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1734.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1735.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1736.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1737.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1738.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1739.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1740.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1741.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1742.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1743.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1744.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1745.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1746.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1747.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1748.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1749.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1750.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1751.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1752.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1753.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1754.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1755.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1756.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1757.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1758.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1759.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1760.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1761.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1762.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1763.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1764.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1765.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1766.jpg>
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1767.jpg>


<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

User avatar
Okanagan desert-palms
Clumping Palm
Posts: 1600
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:59 am
Location: Kelowna British Columbia Canada
Contact:

Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:58 pm

WOW :shock: Tim I keep forgetting how many you have in your collection of Yuccas. How much protection did you use for your variegated Y. gloriosa? I have a few of these and want to plant a couple this spring. Thanks for the pics! 8)




John
Okanagan Palms and Tropicals
6b-7a

Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Large Palm
Posts: 1269
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:30 am
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:08 pm

Great shots, Tim! Overall, everything looks to be in pretty good condition. Some of my favourites are the P. trifoliata, the MP tree, the Aucuba, and Y. recurvifolia / Y. rostrata.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... /71601.gif" alt="Click for Shearwater, Nova Scotia Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:37 pm

Incredible that some are showing signs of growth already.

There's either a big worm doing a backflip or you've lost a skinny cactus.

And look at that Araucaria!!! :shock:
It sure didn't look that good this time last year

With all the rain you've had, sun would work miracles.

It'll be wonderful when all the wrapped stuff is freed and cords are put away.

Love all the pics. Thanks for the tour, Tim.

Barb
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:07 pm

Hi John,

the Y. gloriosa 'variegated' is reasonably hardy here. It died to the ground once. Other than that....the only problem is the fungus on the leaves. That is one of the worst Yuccas in our area for that. The brown spots are worst in winter.....summer is not a problem.........looks like crap this time of year.

Here's the Y. glorisoa 'variegata' after the 08-09 winter.....died to the ground.
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 2510-1.jpg>

Another shot in July showing the dead trunk and new suckers:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... ly1217.jpg>

Another shot in March showing the variegata in snow:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... march2.jpg>

Of course Y. gloriosa 'variegata' looks best in full glory:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... ept237.jpg>

Monkey puzzle didn't do well that winter either:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 2512-1.jpg>

Hi Cameron,

The only Yucca I lost is Y. queretaroensis. It was mislabeled as a hybrid from Benny as Y. gloriosa x elata.....too bad. I still have other Y. queretaroensis...........I guess I can't plant them outside!!!

Hi Barb,

I see growth on the Illicium's and the tulips in the front yard. I may take off protection this coming weekend as long as the forecast looks good. The biggest surprise was seeing the snapdragons were still in good condition along the house????? Incredible winter. :)
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

User avatar
seedscanada
Small Palm
Posts: 623
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Hamilton, ON
Contact:

Post by seedscanada » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:12 pm

Tim
Some nice Yuccas there. The eighth last yucca, the one after the recurvifolia... What would that be? One of the filatas?
I really like the look of it.
Adam
Adam
Zone pusher7a. Trail runner, marathon racer. Propagator of Yuccas, palms and Pawpaws among others. World traveller. Language collector, lol.
Latitude: 43°11'00.000" N

https://www.instagram.com/adamseedscanada/
http://myworld.ebay.ca/seedscanada


<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/fin ... ipes"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... edState=ON" alt="Click for Beamsville, Ontario Forecast" height="90" width="160" />

Cowtown Palm Society
Seedling
Posts: 213
Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:09 pm
Location: Calgary, Alberta (zone 4a/4b)

Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:41 pm

Wow! Best hardy yucca collection in North America :shock: ! Most look like they haven't even had any winter (except maybe, what I believe is, y. baccata :wink:)

Thanks Tim!
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/global/stat ... big2"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... /71877.gif" alt="Click for Calgary, Alberta Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

damir
Seedling
Posts: 162
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Osijek, Croatia usda 7a

Post by damir » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:10 am

woow!! is that carnerosana,or faxoniana? in few first pics? great garden!!!!!!! my garden wants to be just like yours when it grows up!! ;)
gloriosa variegata showed some leaf damage but it will survive. here is visible that variegata forms are less hardy than regular ones. i like more green ones. please can u tell what species survived this winter? you say mild winter and lowest -15?? that is the regular winter here at my place,and not common this one we had this year of lowest -25C! rgds

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:11 am

Hi Adam,

the 8th to the last is a Yucca constricta...........I agree.......totally awesome Yucca.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1760.jpg>

A few more shots of Yucca constricta growing up:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... pt1317.jpg>

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... t25120.jpg>

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... ept348.jpg>



Regarding that Yucca baccata damage.......here's the photo I think your talking about. This is a Yucca confinis. I don't think the cold caused the damage....I think it's the combination of cold/moisture and fungus. This Y. confinis is 10 years old and never gets larger.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1701.jpg>


Hi Damir,

this is the Yucca carnerosana. I do protect it with a container during cold spells and/or snowy periods. It does OK, especially since they are so small still. I should get a larger specimen.........they are beauties.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... G_1681.jpg>


We are close to the Ocean so we don't experience large swings in temperature extremes. We typically get a low of -19C (-2F) every winter plus or minus 5F or so. Our biggest problem is 4 inches (10cm) of precipitation every month of the year. Cold + wet = death to many marginal plants.

We can grow most Yuccas in my climate except for these (not hardy).

Yucca aloifolia
Yucca desmettiana
Yucca treculeana
Yucca torreyi
Yucca schidigera
Yucca brevifolia
Yucca arizonica
Yucca faxoniana (I have not tried a large one yet)
Yucca filifera
Yucca harrimaniae/angustissima do very poorly here.......the cold doesn't kill them but they don't like our climate and slowly die
Yucca schottii (can grow for several years but will die in colder/wetter winters)

The hardiest southwest trunked Yucca in my climate is Yucca elata for sure, then followed by Yucca rostrata/thompsoniana
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:48 am

Oh, Tim! So many different Yucca s are growing there! I feel jealous but it makes me move forward with my yucca's collection. By the way your seeds (last year present) are germinating pretty good. One more reason to be jealous - you are able seeing your plants! I'm not - too much snow...
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />

User avatar
seedscanada
Small Palm
Posts: 623
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Hamilton, ON
Contact:

Post by seedscanada » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:59 am

That's the one time. Awesome I already have a two year old planted constricta
Adam
Adam
Zone pusher7a. Trail runner, marathon racer. Propagator of Yuccas, palms and Pawpaws among others. World traveller. Language collector, lol.
Latitude: 43°11'00.000" N

https://www.instagram.com/adamseedscanada/
http://myworld.ebay.ca/seedscanada


<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/fin ... ipes"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... edState=ON" alt="Click for Beamsville, Ontario Forecast" height="90" width="160" />

User avatar
hardyjim
Palm Grove
Posts: 4703
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
Location: Fairfield Iowa 5b

Post by hardyjim » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:24 am

Great collection Tim!

How do you thing "big mama" would do here?

I don't know if I could protect something that massive!


BTW

The seeds............
They started sprouting a few days after I got them and one ("big mama") is about 1-2" tall now.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... rfield.gif" alt="Click for Fairfield, Iowa Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:49 am

one ("big mama") is about 1-2" tall now.
My Big Mama seeds started to open right away too...then stopped.
Nada.
Maybe too warm in basement :evil:
Barb
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:21 pm

Another great post! 8)
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:19 pm

Hi Igor,

we need to send you some of our heat to melt your snow. :hello2:

Hi Adam,

keep us posted on your Y. constricta. There are many forms of Y. constricta too. I want them all!

Jim,

If Yucca filamentosa and Yucca elata can grow in your climate, then you'll be OK. Have you ever tried Y. elata? My gut tells me your extreme cold blasts would kill it but I'm just guessing. Y. elata can take some real cold out west. PS, in a couple years your palm protection will be bigger than 'big mama'.

Jim & Barb,

I'm glad to hear your 'big mama' seeds are growing. I'll start mine about May 1 since I don't have sufficient light to keep them healthy until May when they can go outside. Barb.....how much light do you have in the basement........Yuccas LOVE light.....the more the better.....this is why I start them May 1.

Hi Aaron,

thanks!
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:48 pm

Yuccas LOVE light.....the more the better
They're under grow lights with the Christmas palm seedlings, which are doing very well.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 pm

Hi Barb,

Keep me updated on the Yucca seedlings. It's a felony to kill Yucca seedlings :lol:
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

User avatar
Paul Ont
Large Palm
Posts: 1384
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:58 am
Location: zone 6a Downtown Toronto and zone 5a Kingston

Post by Paul Ont » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:38 pm

Ha! I've got my Y. filata f2's in the greenhouse. Good germination thus far!

lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:25 pm

Tim, you can call off the constabulary, they ARE coming after all.

Today, the soil is lifting as though mushrooms are coming up :D
Always wondered, when's the earliest to fertilize yucca seedlings?

Paul, look forward to your pics.

Barb
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:48 pm

Hi Paul

Please keep me updated on the Yucca seedlings

Hi Barb

I'm pretty bad with fertilizer. I generally don't fertilize my Yucca seedlings.
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:45 am

TimMAz6 wrote:
I generally don't fertilize my Yucca seedlings.
I don't either. Makes for a stringy yucca. :wink:
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:10 am

How do you tell Yucca arizonica from Y. baccata?

Wich would these be? Tombstone AZ
Image
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:54 am

Hi Aaron,

I'm not very familiar with all those southern Arizona Yuccas. Yucca arizonica, Yucca confinis and Yucca thornberi are kinda all lumped together. It may end up being easier to ID those when in bloom or perhaps when we see the seed pods. I'd do some research to see what traits separate those 3 yuccas from each other.
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:26 pm

Thanks Tim. :D
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:51 pm

I did some research and it looks like that is the area for Y. baccata arizonica.

I thought all the baccatas looked taller than normal in that area. :lol:
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:39 am

Hi Aaron,

I'm looking through some photos of Y. thornberi, confinis and arizonica with location data.....I don't know these areas perhaps you do.

Yucca thornberi - Oracle, AZ, Catalina Mts, AZ, Rincon Mts, AZ, Agua Verde Creek, AZ, Nogales, AZ

Yucca confinis - Apache, AZ, Rodeo, NM, Pendregosa Mts., AZ, Perilla Mts., AZ, Mule Mts, AZ

Yucca arizonica - Bisbee, AZ, Atlasco Mts, AZ, Altar Valley, AZ

"Yucca arizonica is clearly different from Yucca thornberi by the form of the rosettes and leaves and by the characteristics of the inflorescence".

I gotta do more research. I grew all from seed (assuming collector knows the differences??) and Y. thornberi was very much like Y. schottii in appearance. Yucca confinis is very much like Y. baccata. I forget Y. arizonica.....perhaps I have some photos.

A few other traits:

Yucca arizonica = leaves rarely straight, to 3 meters tall
Yucca confinis = leaves straight, marginal fibres fine, to 1.5 meters tall
Yucca thornberi = leaves with a smooth surface (baccata rough surface)
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:56 pm

Thanks for the good info Tim. I been reading and I think these are Y. arizonica :|

Image

Image
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

User avatar
TimMAz6
Palm Grove
Posts: 2789
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:15 am
Location: Massachusetts USDA 6b

Post by TimMAz6 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:41 am

Great Yucca photos Aaron......the 2nd one sure looks like it's got some baccata and schottii in it.
<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Seeko ... igwx"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... eekonk.gif" alt="Click for Seekonk, Massachusetts Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />

DesertZone
Palm Grove
Posts: 4416
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
Location: South Central Idaho 5b
Contact:

Post by DesertZone » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:53 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Great Yucca photos Aaron......the 2nd one sure looks like it's got some baccata and schottii in it.
Thanks Tim. They are all the same sp. These are some I had on my property. They are some form of baccata, but I now belive them too be var. arizonica. This is just a guess, but they are the same baccatas that are by Bisbee and Tombstone. When I first seen the bigger ones I thought they might be Torreyi, but I knew they were not found in AZ.
I can tell you this, they are different than the baccatas at higher elv. Or atleast the ones at higher elv. are much smaller.

High in the Chiricahua's
Image
Shoshone Idaho weather
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... ooding.gif" alt="Click for Pearce, Arizona Forecast" border="0" height="50" width="150" /></a>
Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
-Aaron-

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests