Yucca glauca RARE TREE FORM PLAINS YUCCA?

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Yucca glauca RARE TREE FORM PLAINS YUCCA?

Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:42 am

Hi Guys and Gals,

What do you think about this? Seller on Ebay claims to have seeds for a trunking yucca glauca. Didn't think there was such a thing, although given their wide distribution-north to south over North America (Alberta-Texas)-I was thinking perhaps a southern variation of the species may actually produce a trunk?


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Post by DesertZone » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:09 pm

Some will trunk, 3ft tall or so. I would not dought the offer, but it would be nice if they had a better pic of the mother plant. One way to tell is to buy some and see what happens in 5 or so years. :D
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Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:00 am

Thanks Aaron! I might give it a whirl. The trunking ones must be from down south somewhere?

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Post by DesertZone » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:56 pm

Cowtown Palm Society wrote:Thanks Aaron! I might give it a whirl. The trunking ones must be from down south somewhere?

Duncan
More than likely.
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Post by Paul Ont » Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:13 pm

Methinks the picture is not accurate... Most glauca are acaulescent, but some CAN produce trunks. NOt all will, and I've never heard of one putting up a trunk that large (I've seen some that reach perhaps 3 feet). However, where these 'trunking forms' aka var. stricta, blend into Y. elata is unclear. What you might be buying here is just elata, or rather what we call elata (the Yucca don't know the difference, they'll have sex with whatever is available!!!) As an example, I came across a 'trunking' form of Yucca angustissima near the native range of Y. elata v. veridensis. The trunks are weak (as you see in glauca, and those rare 'trunking' angustissima that are present elsewhere) and therefore I classified them as angustissima. However, it is doubtful that these plants were ;pure' angustissima...

Anyway, I can't remember where i was going with this... Probably something about the picture not showing Yucca glauca, but rather a hybrid of some sort. Ah well. I say that the only way to know if a plant is hardy or not is to kill it for yourself! And trust me, I practice what I preach.

I'll take a look for the pics I snapped of those 'trunking' angusstissima, I might even have some seeds kicking around.

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Post by Paul Ont » Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:32 pm

Not the ones I'm talking about but here are SOME 'trunking' Y. angustissima from high up in the mountains in Central Utah.

<a href="http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2432 ... FTmk"><img src="http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/8112/ ... 600Q85.jpg" alt="Yucca"></a>

Ah, here they are, not the prettiest Yucca, but still trunking:
<a href="http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2214 ... UfSD"><img src="http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/1221/ ... 600Q85.jpg" alt="arizona 2008 015"></a>

And finally, an awkward shot of yours truly snapping a Yucca elata veridensis inflorescence to get at the seeds. Notice the large stalk on the true elata compared with the angustissima:
<a href="http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2300 ... Ycqy"><img src="http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/14894 ... 600Q85.jpg" alt="arizona 2008 017"></a>

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 am

Anybody know whether the seller is qualified to make that judgment?
Anybody want to ask him? :lol:
I elect Paul!
not the prettiest Yucca
Could be, if it were "cleaned up" a tad.

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Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:18 pm

Thanks for the pics Paul! Very interesting insights too. Found some y. glauca stricta pics after reading your post. Would love to get my hands on this species!
Thanks!

http://www.bennyskaktus.dk/Y_stricta.htm

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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:35 pm

There are some forms of Y. glauca with tall trunks. Y. glauca v stricta is trunk forming (generally Kansas, Western OK & Nebraska). There is also a form up near Mt. Rushmore which is suppose to be 5 feet+ tall.
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Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:00 pm

Hi Tim!

Very cool. I bet they'd be super hardy too. You don't have any trunking glauca seeds kicking around, by chance, do you?

I've got some very nice little yucca seedlings coming along from the seeds you gave me. I'll get some pics up soon. Hope the plants are wintering well Tim!

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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:43 pm

Sorry, I have no glauca 'trunker' seeds.
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Post by DesertZone » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:53 am

Cowtown Palm Society wrote:Hi Tim!

Very cool. I bet they'd be super hardy too. You don't have any trunking glauca seeds kicking around, by chance, do you?

Duncan
Not a real trunker but keeps growing up, if I can find some seed you can have them. :D

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Post by hardyjim » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:52 am

So many things you buy on e-bay(or anywhere) that are supposed
to be different /hybrids or whatever are just risky as it would be
a long time to find out if it's the real deal....but for less than $5-
no biggie!



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Post by Cowtown Palm Society » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:23 pm

Aaron,

Thanks man, if you do have any, I'd love some :D . That's a real nice plant. It's pure glauca?

Jim, agreed, it's worth a shot, for $5, especially $5USD :wink: .

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Post by DesertZone » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:22 pm

Cowtown Palm Society wrote:Aaron,

Thanks man, if you do have any, I'd love some :D . That's a real nice plant. It's pure glauca?

Duncan
Yes...but there is so many different forms I cant tell you where it came from. I got it from a nursery about 14 years ago. PM me with a address and I will send you some seed. I found some on the plant, they have been there all winter so I'm not sure how they will do. :D
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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:05 am

Duncan,

Here's a video I took showing the difference between a Yucca glauca v stricta and Yucca glauca. The stricta form is much more massive. I grew both from seed in year 2000.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 08n3CXBzYw
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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:09 am

Very nice video, Tim! Enjoined your back yard yuccas very much. They bloom so different! I have seen only Yu.filamentosa blooming. Some time it's amazing too...
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:27 am

Fabulous yuccas you've got Tim.
nice seeing the plumes and the sprinkler going. (yeah, really!) :lol:

Great looking Araucarias and Takil too.

Thanks for the tour.
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