New Growth

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:20 pm

With spring not too far away, starting to see things wake up !

A couple Cycas sp. 'Wilailak' ,

I snuck these Ceratozamias in during a warm spell last month and wrapped the containers with Christmas lights to keep them warm.

These should fill out nicely

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:12 pm

Ceratozamia moving along,

Cycas sp. 'Wilailak' frond,

At this size, mine are growing fronds to about a 3' length, and do seem to prefer a shady spot.

Steve

virtualpalm · Post by **virtualpalm** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:39 pm

Which Ceratozamia is that, Steve?

Jody

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:02 pm

Jody,

I'm fairly sure it is one of the robusta types, hoping you can help me ID it once some leaves are up

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:33 pm

Great pics, Steve, especially the close-ups.

Nice response for so early in the season.
I'm guessing your D.spinulosum will have leaves that beat the 3-foot mark.
Mine is putting my other cycads to shame including D.edule.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:43 am

Barb,

The edules may be slower, but I think they make up for it with color.
(mine still have a nice blue sheen

Your Cycas debaoensis might end up outpacing them all! How are those doing?

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:35 pm

True, nothing beats D.edule for color.

The C.debaoensis have stopped again due to dark/overcast weather, despite warm temps in house.

The two C.debaoensis in 2-gallon pots look further along, so I'll pot the others into 2-gallon pots soon.
My one remaining C. panzhihuaensis shows no signs of pushing a leaf.

I'm going to hold off fertilizing for another 2 weeks.
We need more than the odd sunny break to kick plants into growth.

Barb

virtualpalm · Post by **virtualpalm** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:12 pm

I don't know, Barb... Dioon merolae sure has a nice color as well when it starts to get some size...

Jody

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:41 pm

Oooooh, Jody, yup you're right!

Man, that's a beauty.

Maybe I can show that pic to my cycads.
Humiliate them into looking like that

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:39 pm

Jody, That's a nice one!

Barb, I've been waiting since last April for this Lepidozamia to put up it's first frond!
(I'm hoping, maybe this year

Here's a closer look at one of the Ceratozamia fronds,

I started an album to show the progress, here's a link.

http://jungletopics.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=11

Steve

(Edited to correct link)

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:02 pm

You've waited 11 months? thought that only happened to ME

Great closeup again.

Good album, too, in a nice format.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:18 pm

Thanks for the comments!
(just finding ways to pass the time)

With the Lepidozamia, had 3-4 that germinated. One has sent up two fronds already, and the rest look like the photo. Even dug one up last week just to make sure it was still alive, so the wait goes on.............

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:21 pm

I just STINK at germinating Cycads. Steve, you have it down to a science.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:10 pm

Wes, Fresh seed makes all the difference, once Cycad or Palm seeds are cleaned, the clock is ticking

How is your stuff doing? Any photos?

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:07 pm

Since I moved everything out to the Greenhouse (was in basement) I have not lost ONE THING. Next year I am not moving anything inside, keeping it all in the greenhouse. Even thou the air temps get cold at night (around high 30's to low 40's if I had to guess) the soil temps are VERY warm. Warm enough that when I water, the run off water is HOT coming out the bottom. So everythjing is not dying, and IS growing, just at a snails pace.
As far as new growth on Cycads, My Rumphii leaf is still stretching and will be a BIG BEAUTIFUL leaf when it opens. I have 4 Tait X Guiz seedlings and 3 are finishing there leaf, while the other is just starting one. The Tait X Panzi seedling MIGHT be trying to start something, but the Tait X Guiz are WAY faster growers.
I have a Merolae (Golden Leaf) seedling (Ping Pong Ball size) that I cut the leaf off of about 2 months ago and thought it might be dead, but it is getting really fuzzy so we might be back in buisness.
I have a Wilailik that put out a two leaf flush that was BIG, but when I put it out in the garage for the gradual sunlight from basement to greenhouse transition, SOMEBODY KNOCKED THE LEAFLETS OFF THE STEM, so I had to cut that flush.
Other than that, not much.
On the Palms side, palms that have done great so far are the X-Mas palms you gave me a year or so ago. I have one that is starting it's first split leaf. Surprising enough my Spindle sappling, Foxtail Sappling, Royal Sappling and Foxtail Seedling are all doing GREAT. I thought I might have trouble with them in the 30's to 40's, but man, they are growing STRONG. I have found that keeping my Sabal Minors in standing water has caused them to double their size over the Winter. I thought that since many of these are in swamps, that the standing water wouldn't hurt them and sure enough they are growing like mad. Butia's are doing good, and the Bismarkia that you gave me last Fall is doing GREAT, I mean REALLY GREAT. It is on it's third leaf since you gave me it.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:27 pm

Sounds like you had a good winter.
My Palms didn't do that well

I'm waiting to see if the robusta in the yard survived, think I told you something tore the poly up the night it was -7*F out?
(Even lost the Sabal minors in there, so it had to be cold.....................

The Cycads held all their fronds through the winter, these "'Wilailak" are holding about ten each, not sure if there's room for any more to grow

Here's my first Sago to start up,

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:04 pm

This is the other Ceratozamia that arrived this past January,

Just noticed the start of a flush today

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:27 pm

I just noticed something Steve. You cut your last flush off (or from shipping). I think I will try that with mine. Works on everything else, so it should work for this.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:00 pm

Wes, The fronds were cut for shipping. Trimming the fronds can induce a new flush, but it's also going to use up energy the plant has stored. With mine, I'm trying to keep as many fronds as possible, seems to speed up overall growth.

Heat does a good job of inducing flushes too, I wrapped the Ceratozamia containers with Christmas lights as soon as I settled them in. Took about a month for the first one to start up.

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:07 am

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:52 pm

Good results so early, Steve.

It'll be nice to see them fill out this summer.
Should be good sizes.

Mine aren't doing much of anything.
Little sun, even less heat.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:25 am

Hi Barb, Hopefully your weather will take a turn for the better soon!
We're getting some warmer days, but still having some nights in the 30's

The Ceratozamia is still moving along,

Has just a tinge of brown/bronze in the emergent leaf tips,

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:22 am

Nice pics Steve, thanks for posting (especially that close-up)!

Mid-afternoon temps are nice here finally...
Great to see the sun again.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:28 am

Thanks Barb, Just finding things to do here until it warms up

A couple more things showing growth,

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:34 pm

You inspired me to cut the leaves off mine Steve:-)

Yours is BEAUTIFUL!!!
Hey, I have been in Salina for the past two days because of wind damage (15 poles down on Schilling Rd.). Hope you made it thru alright!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:31 pm

No problems here

However, it is scary to see these big Cottonwoods whip around!
We had up to 60mph wind gust all day long, here's a local article from Salina,

http://www.ksallink.com/?cmd=displaysto ... ormat=html

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:51 pm

AHHHH yep, thats on Schilling Rd. I stood right by that pole for hours yesterday

My guys got it back up and running really quick thou.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:35 pm

Now their calling for 1-4 inches of snow Thurs/Fri, wish that Spring would finally get here!

Add some photos when you can, one of my Cycas taitungensis X revoluta is getting an early start.

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:51 am

Sorry, but what with 70's & 80's temps, I think the ground is too warm to support any accumulation, especially if it rains alot first which is what they are saying.

I will take some pics today as I worked last night and have spare time (baby is at babysetter).

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:36 pm

Here is my Rumphii that is putting out a flush. Weird thing is, this tree just got done putting out a leaf literally 2 weeks ago.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:55 pm

I'm so envious.
Both Steve's and Wes' cycads are soooooo far ahead of mine!

We've had warm weather for a few days, but cooling off again this weekend.
Hopefully mine will show growth soon.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:06 am

Barb,

I'm still waiting for things to warm up too, the ones that started early are either in hanging planters or getting mostly full sun.
(The growth is stop and go depending on sunny days

Still somewhat moving along..............

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:12 am

Yes, I now also realize how warmth-dependent cycads seem to be.

Sunny days and they move along rapidly.
A cooldown and they take a break.

Your hanging planters provide the most heat near the ceiling.
They're doing very well.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:21 pm

The Ceratozamia has just about finished up, fronds are about 4' long

First Sago to start!

New Lepidozamia frond, (still waiting for the rest to send up their first leaves

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:38 pm

Four-foot long fronds, wow, I can only dream of that!

How's your Dioon Spinulosum doing?
Mine will be a monster before all the other cycads and zamias.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:52 pm

Hi Barb,
Having some larger Cycads is nice, but I still have the most fun starting them from seed

The D. Spinulosum is doing well, put out 3 leaves last year, (That was after I dug it up and moved it twice)
Seems to have rooted in well over the winter, should be a good season for it!

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:04 pm

Glad the D.spinulosum is doing well; it'll blow your socks off this year.
I was amazed at how much it grew the first year I received it from Lori at Jurassic Plants Nursery.

Your stuff looks good, nice to see the flush and good colour.

My two sagos are now outside, and they're starting to look like they're awake.
Finally.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:00 pm

Barb,

Here's a recent photo of the Dioon spinulosum,

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:31 am

GREAT NEWS!!!
Steve, remember when I was asking about Ceratozamia Robusta and mine not doing anything? Well, I looked and I see that something is happening. I can not see green leafs yet, but I can see a swelling and seperating going on...YAAAAAA!
Also, my big Wilailik is flushing (too small to take pics) along with 2 of my Tait X Guiz seedlings. I think my Dioon Jacala & Encephalartos Ferox are getting ready as well. Hopefully in two weeks I'll have pics.

BTW Steve, your Spinulosum looks GREAT!! I think those are my favorite Dioons.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:51 pm

Steve,
Those D.spinulosum leaves are so lovely and long.
This year they'll likely be even longer, becoming very graceful looking with arching fronds.

Wes,
We'll look forward to those pics.
Barb

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