Post your coldest temps of the 2011/12 winter

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:52 am

-10C (14F) on January 2nd

The city, 5 miles away, only got to -5 or -6C.

Barb

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:14 am

I had a low of -27c in the night 3 days ago

. .temp. probe in palm box and mummywrap indicated +2c

...looks good

Ben

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:42 am

Beny wrote:I had a low of -27c in the night 3 days ago . .temp. probe in palm box and mummywrap indicated +2c ...looks good

Ben

That's some serious cold, Ben! And good protection

andym · Post by **andym** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:57 am

Nice and mild here at 52oN. But for the lack of sun I have opted not to put the suntan lotion on but a rainmac instead. Its -7C lowest temp in early December.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:57 am

lucky1 wrote:-10C (14F) on January 2nd
The city, 5 miles away, only got to -5 or -6C.

Barb

What is that, like a zone 8b. My nieghbors in AZ have already been down to 16F and they don't even cover their palms.

J/k

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:12 pm

only got to -5 or -6C. What is that, like a zone 8b.

I hate the difference that 5 miles makes.

But we'll most likely go lower in January

Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:13 pm

January cold Barb?.....................winter is over............I'm planting my garden tomorrow.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:34 pm

Beny wrote:I had a low of -27c in the night 3 days ago . .temp. probe in palm box and mummywrap indicated +2c ...looks good

Ben

Wow, i havnt been that cold yet. Nothing below -17C (way west of me) and one station reported -23C (even further away from the lake than the airport). Im closer to the lake, which moderates the temps, so i could be a bit warmer then -17.

Its good to know that your huts stayed that warm. Is the thermometer in the palm frond or on the ground?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:20 pm

lucky1 wrote:
But we'll most likely go lower in January

Barb

I hope you don't, that might put us down here in another cold spell.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:57 pm

While I am seriously hoping for milder winters as the ONLY benefit of GW...I don't expect it to happen so quickly that we'll be keeping the flip-flops near the door.

Cold will come.

Dammit.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:03 pm

lucky1 wrote: Cold will come.

Barb

I agree.

GW is just wishful thinking, the more I want it the colder it gets.

I plant about a dozen cactus in AZ and that winter they get record cold- kills every cactus I planted.

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:26 am

canadianplant wrote:
Beny wrote:I had a low of -27c in the night 3 days ago . .temp. probe in palm box and mummywrap indicated +2c ...looks good

Ben
Wow, i havnt been that cold yet. Nothing below -17C (way west of me) and one station reported -23C (even further away from the lake than the airport). Im closer to the lake, which moderates the temps, so i could be a bit warmer then -17.

Its good to know that your huts stayed that warm. Is the thermometer in the palm frond or on the ground?

It was -23c in Montreal 30km away. The probe thermometer is located near the foliage, the ground not suppose to freeze. I installed a heat cable with is own thermostat on the ground. But now, i cant verify cause there s to much snow. Before getting all that snow, the ground was frozen everywhere but not at the feet of the palms. I will post new video on youtube soon. Ill open up the mummywrap this week, the forecast say a high of 0-2c all the week.

Ben

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:37 am

Be careful what you wish for....we are supposedly in a cool/cold faze now and have low sunspot activity-depending on who you believe.

If last year was one of the warmest ever and we are entering a cold faze,what happens when we go back to the warm faze?

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:45 am

I think the USA was one of the warmest ever.......the globe may make a top 10? Not sure since Dec. data is not in yet. So far for 2012 UAH has global temp of +0.157 above average and RSS has +0.200 above average. GISS always has the highest global temps since Jim Hansen is running that program.....he scares me.....his predictions are way off and I think he 'cooks the books' to make up for the bad predictions.

UAH
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt

RSS
http://www.remss.com/data/msu/monthly_t ... _v03_3.txt

Jim Hansen
2011
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-2 ... otest.html

2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/2 ... 40887.html

2009
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2009 ... al-mining/

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:57 am

I know one thing, if it's warm in the east it's cold in Idaho.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:59 am

Hi Aaron,

your gonna be cold since we are gonna be warm this week!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:06 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

your gonna be cold since we are gonna be warm this week!

So true! I think we are going to have one or two days above freezing then below freezing.

andym · Post by **andym** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:57 pm

Cold is coming back here this week

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:25 pm

how cold are you going to get Andy??

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:47 pm

I saw some mid 60s in the forecast here,they have been so far off lately
in general that I think I will wait and see before I run out and buy
sunflower seeds to plant

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:29 pm

our snow will be gone soon with these temps! Gotta love it.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... D02F6E.jpg>

andym · Post by **andym** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:36 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:how cold are you going to get Andy??

Worst I've seen forecast is -4C which is a joke when temps are just a few degrees above zero during the day. After today no more rain is forecast for the foreseeable future just lots of sunshine

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:02 pm

spoke too quick.........just after posting the last forecast they changed the temps to this

I can't complain.........still zone 7b!

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 7E0006.jpg>

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:07 pm

Here we go: 24F/-4C and lots of snow! Send some warm air, please!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:42 pm

hopefully in one month it will be getting warmer!!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:40 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:hopefully in one month it will be getting warmer!!

Belive it or not, as much as I hate January I am glad it is here. That way I can get it over! Only one more crappy month to go!

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:29 am

I always find march the worst! It just seems to drag on without extreme lows, but no real warmth (usually).

Low to date is -7.6C for Toronto (18F); -19.5c for Kingston (-3.5F). My garden would have hit below -20C in that event though.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:43 am

DesertZone wrote:
TimMAz6 wrote:hopefully in one month it will be getting warmer!!
Belive it or not, as much as I hate January I am glad it is here. That way I can get it over! Only one more crappy month to go!

I agree DZ-but good things begin to happen in January

we unfortunately need every day
of this month to add up the minutes to the day-length-I really love (late) February because at that point
no matter what the weather is doing-at least- here,by the end of February the sun is strong enough
to melt the snow off even if it is barely above freezing-in Jan/Dec that can take weeks.

The sun angle by late Feb is also high enough that the soil begins to warm if the temps do-
I really look forward to this because generally,if it is warm enough to pull the mulch back
and lift the protection-the (bigger Trachys),Sabals and Needles can be let loose again!

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:51 am

And I hate the end of January and the beginning of February, which brings usually the lowest temps here.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:05 am

-8c on january 1 2013 was our coldest cold. That's like 8b.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:58 am

seedscanada wrote:-8c on january 1 2013 was our coldest cold. That's like 8b.

Haha! Beat you 0.4C Adam!

I gloat for now, because when we get a real cold spell I'll be in trouble.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:27 pm

Paul Ont wrote:I always find march the worst! It just seems to drag on without extreme lows, but no real warmth (usually).

Low to date is -7.6C for Toronto (18F); -19.5c for Kingston (-3.5F). My garden would have hit below -20C in that event though.

Kingston was colder then me paul, if only by 2 degrees!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:24 pm

Paul Ont wrote:I always find march the worst! It just seems to drag on without extreme lows, but no real warmth (usually).

Yea, march can be a hard month to live through.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:28 pm

hardyjim wrote: The sun angle by late Feb is also high enough that the soil begins to warm if the temps do-
I really look forward to this because generally,if it is warm enough to pull the mulch back
and lift the protection-the (bigger Trachys),Sabals and Needles can be let loose again!

That is true, I can handle feb. better than Jan. And most of the time I can start taken down the winter protection.

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:54 am

Ooops, party's over! I'm supposed to shiver from cold in two upcoming weeks with lows like 8F

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:23 am

January/beginning of feb is the coldest time here. By the end of feb/middle march the temps are on the upswing - the averages go up by almsot 10C in march. Our daily average high goes from -9C to -3C, and the average low goes from -21C to -14C. IF the trend over the last few years sticks, Ill be uncovering bamboo in a month or so!

The odd thing is, when I was young, you didnt see these upswings until a month later, in april!

Still nothing below -17C, maybe -20C this week. So far a super warm zone 6, or cool zone 7 winter up here in T bay!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:39 am

What I've seen here over the decades here is much warmer falls, but our springs seems to be windy and colder. Wildflowers would come out in April, now I don't see them until May/June. Of cource every year is different, time will only tell what this spring will be like.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:03 am

DesertZone wrote:What I've seen here over the decades here is much warmer falls, but our springs seems to be windy and colder. Wildflowers would come out in April, now I don't see them until May/June. Of cource every year is different, time will only tell what this spring will be like.

And that is the problem. The last 10 000 years or so (after the ice age ended), the planet has been in its (relatively) stable state, climate wise than its been since the jurassic. Now it is anything but "Stable".

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:07 am

here over the decades here is much warmer falls, but our springs seems to be windy and colder.

Same here, Aaron.

Almost like late winter goes to early summer without a spring...3 seasons
Like the 3 season tires people are driving on in a snowstorm.

Plus we seem to get at least one good dump of rain every month in summer, which is wonderful.
Never had that years ago.

Barb

andym · Post by **andym** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:51 am

Were having a sudden Stratospheric warming (SSW) event. What this means is we will get snow and freezing temperatures. Does anyone want our SSW... its going free

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