If you HAD to move North to find a better zone

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 12, 2011 3:22 pm

Yup...North.

This place at 53N is closer to the Arctic Circle than the Equator.
Not hot in summer, lots of rain so no water restrictions and expensive water metering

.

It's a zone 8.
It's Ireland.
Just look at these palms and other plants!

http://www.earlscliffe.com/climatic_zone_plants.htm

I'm envious!

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Thu May 12, 2011 4:33 pm

Barb, I think Halifax is about 45 N, while the Isles of Scilly in the UK are 49.5 N, and if I remember correctly, close to a zone 10!! The wikipedia page says that there are less than 10 days of "air frost" per year, and the lowest temp ever recorded was -6.4 C!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 12, 2011 4:36 pm

Cameron, a zone 10? thought the article said 8.
hmmm, interesting.

But I'm at 50N already so can't consider Halifax

or Scilly .

Thanks!

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Thu May 12, 2011 5:42 pm

The Scilly Isles are the tiny orange spot near the bottom left:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_zonemap.png

Barb, if you can't go there, I guess the next place to go would be Ireland! It looks like there's a bit of a zone 10 there too

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 12, 2011 5:57 pm

Scilly is a bit too small, just a dot in the ocean

Our low tonight is 1C
Plants back indoors.

Ireland...

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:18 pm

My wife loves it there.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri May 13, 2011 6:10 am

Even on the west coast of scotland they have Jubeas growing ( mabey not after last winter), and CIDP. Not to mention many UK gardening books, reccomend growing citrus.

The thing is, europe, especialy up that high is EXTREMLY dependant of air/water currents. Heinrich ( SP probably) events happen every thosuand or so years ( or usualy do) and plunge europ einto a "mini ice age", which isnt to far off form most of canadas " normal" winters. Concidering how warm it is there, -30C temps in italy would be enough to call it an ice age LOL. They come on fast, last for a few hundred years, and within a few decades dissapears ( watch the history channel show "ancient weather", probably one of the best shows ive ever watched). This is thought to be the reason neanderthol died off, and H Sapiens survived.

The thing is, to much of a shift in the air and water currents, and their " northerly" zones 7-10, will be more liek iqaluit.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:00 pm

I've seen that History Channel program you refer to, Jesse.
Fascinating!

We're more like Iqaluit this spring.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:57 pm

The original Terdal farm is here:
61° 38' 0" North, 5° 7' 0" East

No palms there, but down the coast in the city of Bergen, Norway, people grow Trachy. There is even someone there with Chameadorea radicalis, but he protects them.

But my farm is at 35.9 oN. Moving to Europe, I could go "north" and end up in zone 10 Andalucia (36.7 oN), where W's horses come from a few generations back

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri May 13, 2011 5:57 pm

Theyre are trachys in iceland.... that makes me more angry

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri May 13, 2011 7:16 pm

Iceland???

Got a link?

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat May 14, 2011 3:40 am

http://rarepalmseeds.com/pix/TraWag.shtml

Of course it would be the waggie

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat May 14, 2011 9:28 am

Thanks for the RPS link.

It'd be great to see a pic of the Waggie in Iceland...hope it survived the volcano's heavy ash falls.

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:32 am

Had a terrible hailstorm a couple of hours ago. Some pictures have been taken inside of two layers polyethylene film greenhouse. The hail just holed a polyethylene...

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:17 am

Oh no, Igor, those are huge hailstones!

But on the brighter side, your vegetable plants are ahead of ours

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:23 am

In addition to shredded Canna I've got hit below my eye. It must be look funny tomorrow morning!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:28 am

Igor,

The rule is never look up during a hailstorm.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:35 am

Nop, an angle was so sharp. Tried saving some tomato plants. But no worries, I'm so proud to have the SUCH experience after 49 years of my life!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:46 am

It's rare to hear a positive comment after such a weather experience.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:47 am

Igor,
hope your eye gets better.

We had huge hail like that in Oklahoma last week (Thursday). My car looks like someone hit it with a hammer over and over.

--Erik

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Wed May 18, 2011 11:50 pm

Erik, unfortunately I can't watching Picasa Web (have no idea why...). I believe it was hardier than ours... Look at what's happened in a gorge just 30 minute driving from my house: http://www.drive2.ru/users/alex-shooter ... 151967353/

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu May 19, 2011 4:47 am

Wow! Those were powerful winds.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:16 am

Igor, wow, those downed trees were big-diameter trunks.
What a shame all that damage.
Thankfully it missed your place.

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:37 am

Yep! 'Cos it has been happened at the elevation between 1700 and 2200 m above sea level a reason why it was so disgusting is impact of a cold air starting goes down the gorge and of a hot air comes from the desert. My place is situated on a hilly plain at elevation 1000 m. There was no a big differences between surrounding temperature and the front temperature. By the way I'm not a meteorologist so I might be wrong in my guess. An average height of the Picea Semenovii trees is 15-20 m. More than 5 000 trees collapsed across a very small area.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:04 am

Sounds almost like a micro-burst (recently explained on the weather channel

).

Barb

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