"Growop"/Houseplants/Tims Yucca seedlings
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"Growop"/Houseplants/Tims Yucca seedlings
A bit of a random thread. I lost a ton of houseplants this year, due to the summer (less loss) and working too much to bring them in before cold (the bulk). I think I lost close to 40 plants: Small olive tree, 6 year old Baucarnia stricta seedlings, a 6 foot Draceanea tricolour, 2 var. of Ficus elastica, a Phal orchid, Areca palm, to name a few. Some managed to get some massive damage and survive, like my 2 Phoenix Canariensis/Roebelleniii, Chinese fan palm, Philidendron selloum and a Yucca Guatamalensis, that tool -12C outside in a pot with zero damage whatsoever.
I also recently bought myself a new 4 foot ballast for some grow lights. I used to use a jerry rigged 4 light system, but this doubles the luminens and wattage and at the same time giving me almost 1/4 more grow space.
I also have some pics of some seedlings of tims agave hybrid big mama, and elata #5. The only problem is I think I mixed up the pots when I sowed the seeds....
Seed order I got the other day. Cocoa, Rice paper plant, Carribean canna, Philodendron ichthyoderma, Prunus tomentosa and Dypsis albofarinosa
Dresser full of plants
The "grow op". Various trachys, washys, Needle palms, 2 kinds of dypsis, a bunch of things im waiting to germinate, a batch of licula ramsyii that finally showed a spear... Im using tinfoil as a reflecter until I can cut some polished aluminum.
This is the bathroom. There are about 50 plants in there, from Ficus lyrita and religiosa, 2 kinds phalanopsis orchid, and 2 kind of Cymb orchid, Aloe Vera, Musa Acuminata var. and more
Draceana "janet craig". Note that the ceilings are 7.5 feet
Randoms. Those arrowhead vines have been around for over 30 years
Musa Basjoo, Big Dieffenbachia, a wide ficus benjimina and a good 20 or 30 others
One of tims yucca seedlings
One quick post after this to post the other seedling..
I also recently bought myself a new 4 foot ballast for some grow lights. I used to use a jerry rigged 4 light system, but this doubles the luminens and wattage and at the same time giving me almost 1/4 more grow space.
I also have some pics of some seedlings of tims agave hybrid big mama, and elata #5. The only problem is I think I mixed up the pots when I sowed the seeds....
Seed order I got the other day. Cocoa, Rice paper plant, Carribean canna, Philodendron ichthyoderma, Prunus tomentosa and Dypsis albofarinosa
Dresser full of plants
The "grow op". Various trachys, washys, Needle palms, 2 kinds of dypsis, a bunch of things im waiting to germinate, a batch of licula ramsyii that finally showed a spear... Im using tinfoil as a reflecter until I can cut some polished aluminum.
This is the bathroom. There are about 50 plants in there, from Ficus lyrita and religiosa, 2 kinds phalanopsis orchid, and 2 kind of Cymb orchid, Aloe Vera, Musa Acuminata var. and more
Draceana "janet craig". Note that the ceilings are 7.5 feet
Randoms. Those arrowhead vines have been around for over 30 years
Musa Basjoo, Big Dieffenbachia, a wide ficus benjimina and a good 20 or 30 others
One of tims yucca seedlings
One quick post after this to post the other seedling..
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Mine is just as bad in the summer, and worse in spring. Add another 200-300 pots of random stuff!
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Looking good there Jesse-what kind of Trachys have you got there?
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Foil reflects heat better,white reflect light best.
BTW
Did you know that white is actually a better reflector than tin foil?
Foil reflects heat better,white reflect light best.
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Well, some of the labels faded, and I lost some more, but I should have the reg fortunai, naini tal, tesan and... I think tennessee.
I think ive read the same about white, but I forgot about foil being a heat reflector. That is a bonus to me, since I dont use supplemental heat....
I think ive read the same about white, but I forgot about foil being a heat reflector. That is a bonus to me, since I dont use supplemental heat....
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Holy crow, Jesse...wow
A shame you lost some very nice stuff this year, but looks like you're making up for it.
Nice work on Tim's seedlings.
You can get stuff to germinate without supplemental heat? Amazing.
Barb
A shame you lost some very nice stuff this year, but looks like you're making up for it.
Nice work on Tim's seedlings.
You can get stuff to germinate without supplemental heat? Amazing.
Barb
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Barb, I went outside to check on things (all is well, even the zone 7 rose ), and i walked past the plant graveyard in the back porch. 2 cacti, the oney tree and the pomm.....
Most things germinate just as well at room temp, they just take longer. The only things ive had problems with are Musa/Ensete, and Yucca. Although, when I started, i got like 12 batches of palm seeds that never germinated....
Jeff - They need heat and light. Lots of it. They also have very long tap roots, so longer pots may help as well. My seedlings were in small pots, shot glass sized plastic cups, and they arent growing fast at all.
Most things germinate just as well at room temp, they just take longer. The only things ive had problems with are Musa/Ensete, and Yucca. Although, when I started, i got like 12 batches of palm seeds that never germinated....
Jeff - They need heat and light. Lots of it. They also have very long tap roots, so longer pots may help as well. My seedlings were in small pots, shot glass sized plastic cups, and they arent growing fast at all.
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The expert yucca growers on PN, I bet, could have them 3 gal size in 3 or 4 years (guessing).Yucca's and even Agave's from seedlings, how long do they usually take to go from seeds to something say a Nursery would sell to you in a 3 gallon?
I've started only a few...y.rostrata and the Big Mama yucca seeds from Tim.
Will probably be in a rest home by the time they hit that size.
Jesse, I hope you recovered those seeds from the soil.12 batches of palm seeds that never germinated
You can de-lid them and try again because palm seeds are pricey.
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Nice job Jesse. That first photo of the Y. filata with wide leaves seems 'way too cool'. Keep us updated on that one.........very unusual trait to have wide leaves......VERY RARE...........don't kill it!!! I'm gonna sow some of my seeds! I haven't tried any. Are you sure this wide leaf seedling is not a Yucca Guatamalensis?
The second photo of Y. filata seedlings look 'normal'. Good job.
PS, you have a TON of plants. Nice job.
Hi Jeff,
a Yucca filamentosa will be somewhat mature looking after 3 seasons when planted in the ground. If you grow them in containers they will never mature. Yuccas like root tip growth. I have a Yucca elata grown from seed in year 2000 and it has 3 feet of trunk now.
The second photo of Y. filata seedlings look 'normal'. Good job.
PS, you have a TON of plants. Nice job.
Hi Jeff,
a Yucca filamentosa will be somewhat mature looking after 3 seasons when planted in the ground. If you grow them in containers they will never mature. Yuccas like root tip growth. I have a Yucca elata grown from seed in year 2000 and it has 3 feet of trunk now.
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This was a coons age ago, when I first started this (10 years?) They sat for 3 years, some for longer. Some of the pots has some wicked looking moss in them.lucky1 wrote: Jesse, I hope you recovered those seeds from the soil.
You can de-lid them and try again because palm seeds are pricey.
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TimMAz6 wrote:Nice job Jesse. That first photo of the Y. filata with wide leaves seems 'way too cool'. Keep us updated on that one.........very unusual trait to have wide leaves......VERY RARE...........don't kill it!!! I'm gonna sow some of my seeds! I haven't tried any. Are you sure this wide leaf seedling is not a Yucca Guatamalensis?
When you sent them, they were labeled "Y filata #5" and "Yucca "big mama". Even if by some small chance, this is one of the other yucca seeds ive tried (Yucca glauca and filamentosa), they dont look like the one in question, at this stage. The funny thing too is that the pot was left for months, since July or so. I left for 4 days, and I notice that lil guy.
At first I thought it was an agave, but again, it doesnt have agave leaves, or look like any agave ive ever tried to grow or germinated.
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Hi Jesse,
that wide leaf Yucca seedling looks very different from typical Yucca seedlings. If it's a Yucca seedling I would have to guess some species from Mexico which is more tropical. Do you have a photo of your Y. Guatamalensis? Even filamentosa leaves are narrower than your wide leaf seedling. Glauca is narrow.
Here's a couple photos of some Yucca seedlings in my garage:
Y. thompsoniana x 'filamentosa x elata - big mama'
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 71F0C5.jpg>
Y. gloriosa
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 30E58E.jpg>
Interesting that one Y. aloifolia seedling is cold damaged while the other is fine...
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Y. queretaroensis got some cold damage too:
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 83E881.jpg>
that wide leaf Yucca seedling looks very different from typical Yucca seedlings. If it's a Yucca seedling I would have to guess some species from Mexico which is more tropical. Do you have a photo of your Y. Guatamalensis? Even filamentosa leaves are narrower than your wide leaf seedling. Glauca is narrow.
Here's a couple photos of some Yucca seedlings in my garage:
Y. thompsoniana x 'filamentosa x elata - big mama'
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 71F0C5.jpg>
Y. gloriosa
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 30E58E.jpg>
Interesting that one Y. aloifolia seedling is cold damaged while the other is fine...
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... E98E8A.jpg>
Y. queretaroensis got some cold damage too:
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Ouch, Tim!
Yup, you were a tad late this year...
Yup, you were a tad late this year...
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Tim i never ordered guatamalensis seeds. If you crossed them then its different. mine has never set seed or flowered. there is a pic of mine in the bathroom pic. Its in the.middle of the bathroom pic infront of the dracanea marginata.
Its totally possible that it isnt you seed tim but nothing ive ever ordered looks anything like this guy
Its totally possible that it isnt you seed tim but nothing ive ever ordered looks anything like this guy
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Tim i never ordered guatamalensis seeds. If you crossed them then its different. mine has never set seed or flowered. there is a pic of mine in the bathroom pic. Its in the.middle of the bathroom pic infront of the dracanea marginata.
Its totally possible that it isnt you seed tim but nothing ive ever ordered looks anything like this guy
Its totally possible that it isnt you seed tim but nothing ive ever ordered looks anything like this guy
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Barb.........only the hardiest will survive in my yard.
Jesse.........please give us another update on that Yucca seedling in a few more months........someday we'll ID it!
Jesse.........please give us another update on that Yucca seedling in a few more months........someday we'll ID it!
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I put it under my grow lights to get it some size before spring. it was just in a cool window. ill definitely keep updating
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I keep forgetting to post pics of my agave seedlings......
The 2 in the biggest pots, are A paryii, the Smaller 3 on the right are A utahensis, and the 2 small ones on the left are A montana.
The 2 in the biggest pots, are A paryii, the Smaller 3 on the right are A utahensis, and the 2 small ones on the left are A montana.
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Nice job! Are the A. parryi ssp. parryi and A. montana from the seeds that I sent you?
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The A parryii are the ones you sent me years ago, theyre only that small! You never sent me montana because I had some seeds (these ones).
Would you believe the Parryii are 2 years older then the 2 others?
Would you believe the Parryii are 2 years older then the 2 others?
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Wow! I threw some A. parryi seeds outdoors in a germination bed this summer and they grew to about half as large as the ones pictured.
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Interesting that everyone on this thread was between 34/37F at 8:26pm Thursday Jan 10
Oops-except Barb(28F) didn't see that little weather sticker
Oops-except Barb(28F) didn't see that little weather sticker
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you are today igor...... Jims the odd man out today!
Broke an all time record yesterday. 10C, might break todays, Record is 4C and its supposed to be around there! Then this
3 °C -11 °C -11 °C -5 °C -7 °C -17 °C
-11 °C -14 °C -18 °C -14 °C -22 °C -22 °C
Broke an all time record yesterday. 10C, might break todays, Record is 4C and its supposed to be around there! Then this
3 °C -11 °C -11 °C -5 °C -7 °C -17 °C
-11 °C -14 °C -18 °C -14 °C -22 °C -22 °C
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Ugh, Jesse...
Glad other folks have warmed up.
Wearing 2 pairs of socks here...
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Glad other folks have warmed up.
Wearing 2 pairs of socks here...
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Mind this Barb:
Average daily high in Jan:-8.6C
" " low " - -21.4C
Id wager that we dont get that cold..... Well see in a few days
Average daily high in Jan:-8.6C
" " low " - -21.4C
Id wager that we dont get that cold..... Well see in a few days
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Here are my 3 Yucca seedlings-the first is some kind of Thompsoniana cross from Kory in Minn.
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One of Tim's-not sure which one.
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Pretty sure this is(Tim's) big Momma
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One of Tim's-not sure which one.
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Pretty sure this is(Tim's) big Momma
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Wow, that Big Momma is from Tim's RECENT seed set?
My two are tiny compared to yours!
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Are you using a peaty-based soil?
Mine are in cactus-like soil...I obviously goofed there.
Barb
My two are tiny compared to yours!
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Are you using a peaty-based soil?
Mine are in cactus-like soil...I obviously goofed there.
Barb
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Jim, nice green lawn outside too!
Barb you probably should watering them a little bit
You guys push me taking pictures of my "zillion" seedlings...
Barb you probably should watering them a little bit
You guys push me taking pictures of my "zillion" seedlings...
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too much water not enough wateryou probably should watering them a little bit icon_wink.gif
Good! look forward to seeing ALL of them, Igor.You guys push me taking pictures of my "zillion" seedlings...
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Igor it was relatively warm and then the grass got covered with snow/warm again after it melted-we'll see how long that lasts.
Yea,Barb-whenever he sent those seeds out last,I think it being able to stretch it's roots out helps maybe?
That is just Miracle-grow with some sand and perlite thrown in.
Yea,Barb-whenever he sent those seeds out last,I think it being able to stretch it's roots out helps maybe?
That is just Miracle-grow with some sand and perlite thrown in.
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So mine are from the same batch as yours.Yea,Barb-whenever he sent those seeds out last
And mine look like porcupine poop.
Oh, I'll stretch its roots all right...
Barb
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They burn easy! I had palms that are hardier.TimMAz6 wrote: Y. queretaroensis got some cold damage too:
Here's mine, it was purchased as Yucca leanirfolia.
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Yes, it's lovely yucca. And it doesn't matter if it linearifolia or whatever... Do you protect this plant, Aaron?
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Ooops! Had no chance today.... A lot of snow today again! Tomorrow will be shoveling too...lucky1 wrote: Good! look forward to seeing ALL of them, Igor. Barb
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linearifolia does look like querotanensis but linearifolia is much hardier.......people in Europe claim linearifolia is hardy to -5F or so while querotanensis is hardy to +15F or so. This is my first winter with linearifolia outside...........I'll let you know if it survives inside that protection.
Aaron....at what temp do you think your linearifolia died? You really think it was mis-ID'd as a querotanensis?
Aaron....at what temp do you think your linearifolia died? You really think it was mis-ID'd as a querotanensis?
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I orderd a Y. linearifolia from "Plants Delights". It showed up through the mail and was labeled "Y. linearifolioa". I planted it, but thought it looked so different I started having my doughts about the sp. It look more like Nolina longifolia. It had square sided leaves, nothing like any yucca I have ever seen. I thought how would anyone think this looks like a thin leafed rostrata. Well...too make this story short it was not linearifolia, it is (was) Y.quarotanensis!TimMAz6 wrote: Aaron....at what temp do you think your linearifolia died? You really think it was mis-ID'd as a querotanensis?
And it was not hardy, Nolina longifolia lasted longer.
PS. my Y. querotanensis died half way into winter, and it was covered. I think it was a mild year, this was a few years back.
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That's a very nice looking yucca, Aaron.
Looks delicate.
Barb
Looks delicate.
That's OK, Igor, any time.Ooops! Had no chance today
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Plants Delight has a 'new' linearifolia.........I may get one........it has a slight variegation along the leaf edges..........looks cool.
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