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Summer protection up

Post by TerdalFarm » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:46 pm

OK, surely I'm not the first to have summer palm protection in place. I mean, I'm always last for winter protection, right?
Anyway, W and I put up the sunshades and the mister system this weekend.
Hopefully the pool will be ready soon. With lows of 20 C and highs of 35 C daily, I'm ready!

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:34 pm

Great topic Erik! (and your "take" on it) :lol: :lol:

Excellent idea, especially for your 3 new Bottle Palms.

I'm fighting sunburn on most of my stuff, including almost all the 1 year old Foxtails.
Simply going to move them to the north side of building.

It's so windy here, a sunshade would last about 5 minutes :?

You drained your pool?
Thought you said most folks leave it in with the pump running all winter in your area.

Our pool's green :lol: :lol: like everything else with the nice weather.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:42 pm

Barb,
W was hiding in that photo but was weeding the Chammie. It's very-effective winter protection let weeds come through, too. :lol:
The potted Chameadorea most desperately need the summer protection. I actually have to bring them inside for summer :shock: and will soon.
The pool has been a hassle. It was so filthy we drained it, power-washed the sides and now W is determined to paint it before filling it. I don't argue--I just pay the bills. Job of an H, right?
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Post by wxman » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:37 am

Summer protection and winter protection. The things we do for our beloved plants. LOL. I didn't think you could drain a pool without replacing the liner.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:39 am

No liner in that thing. I guess every pool is different.
Yes, summer protection is important. Even the wild Sabal minor live in damp soil under shade.
Bismackia and Washingtonia love my summer heat, but obviously can't handle my winter cold.
I'm thinking needle palms are the best overall....

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Post by wxman » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:47 pm

How do trachys fair in the summer?
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:22 pm

didn't think you could drain a pool without replacing the liner
Not true.
We have a 16 x 32 inground, steel walls, covered with spray on concrete over which a vinyl liner is hung.
We've never drained it down to nothing, but close...sad story...neighbor's dog drowned in it while we were away over a hot weekend.
I don't have to explain the rest I'm sure.

Trachies typically don't like hot dry desert winds and 100 F.
Trachies and wind are enemies, although in Vancouver they get buffeted by ocean winds (and look like crap with broken bent fronds).
But they can handle the high temp on the east side of a building if they get enough water.

Washies both filifera and robusta love the hottest spot on the land, but ample water.

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Post by TerdalFarm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:08 pm

I think Trachy are the only trunked palms for around here.
But they do slow/stop growing in the heat of summer.
Still, I saw many fine healthy Trachy in north Texas this spring that came through their coldest winter and survive the hot/windy summers of the southern plains.

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Post by canadianplant » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:49 pm

Ive always wondered eric, why dont you use trees as shade?
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Post by TerdalFarm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:52 pm

:lol:
W doesn't want the leaves falling in the pool.

John has the most fantastic cold-hardy palm garden in the world (bar none), and uses deciduous trees very effectively.
He is also vastly more intelligent than I. :D

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Post by CTPalm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:59 pm

Eric, Good Idea! I burned and shriveled up some new Sabal Minor seedlings today I had placed under my deck!!! Sun must have reached them! Paul
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Post by TerdalFarm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:15 pm

I have a bunch of Sabal (minor, Birmingham) seedlings, plus a couple Phoenix and the lovely Adonidia/Veithchia seedlings, outside. But, the sunshade gives them some afternoon sun protection + the humdity helps.

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Post by hardyjim » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:18 am

lucky1 wrote:
..neighbor's dog drowned in it while we were away over a hot weekend.
I don't have to explain the rest I'm sure.

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That would suck to come home and find a dog dead in your pool!

Worse for the dog I guess :cry:
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