CIDP must be eating its soil...

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CIDP must be eating its soil...

Post by lucky1 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:56 pm

...because it's disappearing :lol: :lol:

Top dressed with sand last time.

Now that's gone, likely down the pot's sides.
This Canary Island Date palm feels like it weighs a ton, desperately in need of a repot.

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Post by oppalm » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:53 am

that trunk is getting fat so he/she must eating the soil. maybe you should try some low calorie soil, made with vegetable compost. my cidp does the same thing. I think they grow a ton of feeder roots just on top of the soil. I keep covering mine up but they just grow through each year. thats a good sign, healthy tree. happy tree= happy palm tree farmer.
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:16 pm

I think they grow a ton of feeder roots just on top of the soil. I keep covering mine up but they just grow through each year.
Sounds like those are the "adventitious roots" I've read about.
http://www.ehow.com/info_10028007_root- ... palms.html

Good to learn yours does the same thing, Kent.

Speaking of nutritious soil, do you use leaf mold, etc. in your CIDP soil mix?

Yours must be huge by now, Kent.
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Post by oppalm » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:24 pm

I'll post a pic soon. Its pretty good size but its 4 palms growing in one pot. Its very heavy. This summer , rather than move it up to the next size container (which I would be unable to lift) I decided I would trim roots on the palm and put it back in the same container. True Story here, I cut the root ball in half and cut 2-4 inches off the sides, and stuck it back in the container watered it, took it out of the sun for a few weeks and this plant never sulked, never drooped, never wilted. It just grew bigger and better.
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:08 am

I cut the root ball in half and cut 2-4 inches off the sides, and stuck it back in the container watered it, took it out of the sun for a few weeks and this plant never sulked, never drooped, never wilted.
Good to hear CIDP's actually thrive with that treatment.
You may recall this photo 5 years ago where I inadvertently did the same thing, snapped off half its roots as the tractor lifted it.

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Since there's no larger pot than a garbage can :wink: will do the same again.

I've seen pics on the internet of CIDPs being moved...
great big monsters with only a 2 foot x 2 foot x 2 foot rootball.

Have a peek at these! http://www.balsamfir.com/MotoJournal/mo ... eCreek.jpg :shock:

Look forward to seeing a new pic of yours, Kent.

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Post by TimMAz6 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:51 pm

I bet the CIDP will do fine if you place it in a warm microclimate. :joker:
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:30 am

place it in a warm microclimate
Oops.
No space for it in the house, so it spends every winter in the cold barely-heated building near a south window.

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Post by TimMAz6 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:27 am

I'm talking outside! :lol:
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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:08 am

My CIDP spends ALL summer outdoors in the hottest sunniest windiest driest area I can offer it.
Other potted plants bake to a crisp there. :|
Even the Butia capitata in the photo is dead. :cry:

The CIDP is one of the first plants I put outdoors in early spring, and among the last to come inside.

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Post by TerdalFarm » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:22 pm

Sorry, just noticed this thread.

My CIDP also seems to eat soil and will need a potting-up come spring. Yes, also one of the first out and last in. Was in west-facing wall up against parking lot and so must have been >120 F when the airport air was 114 F. Sucked up lots of water (thanks, W! I was in Oregon then :D ).

I managed to carry in inside. In the dining room, so not much light. I trimmed many lower fronds so it takes up less floor space.

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:30 pm

My CIDP also seems to eat soil and will need a potting-up come spring.
Amazing amount of fibrous roots.
Probably why it can take a 50% root prune...either accidental :lol: or intentional.

You carried it inside?
With your back still recovering from surgery... :evil:
trimmed many lower fronds
Me too, easier to walk past it when it's crammed in somewhere for winter.
They do look strange, however, if they're prune ABOVE the 9 and 3 o'clock "line".

Given enough water, they do love intense heat, yours must've taken the record Erik. :bounce:

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