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Yucca/Agave

Post by hardyjim » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:47 am

The one in the biggest pot is from Big momma..
from Tim in Mass...maybe he will see this and help with the name?
The one to the left is a Thompsoniana x from Kory
in Minnesota -don't recall the other x -Elata?

Ones in the smaller pots from Tim too-thx Tim


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Some left over Y.Aloifolia removed from the cactus
garden after they hit 6' in 3 years.

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Colorgaurd recovering from the winter.

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Heres what I planted where the Aloifolia were,variegated one just has more bling-
I have a couple "extra" if anyone is interested.

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Three headed Gloriosa...thinking about removing
the lower leaves to bring the focus back to the top...any opinions?

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Rostrata had half dozen tiny leaves small enough to lay on the gravel when it was planted in 2008.

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AGAVE.

I have no idea what kind of agave this is-it started
as a shoot,presumably off an A.Parryi that turned
out to be A.americana judging by the fact it died
from temps in the 15-20F range...this shoot made
it,came up 5' away and has somehow survived temps
that had to have been at least 10F(or colder) when it was small.


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and look at this shoot off the same plant-coming out from
an old stump-tenacious!

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A.Neomexicana-very sloooooow up to this size-
gaining some speed now though.

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Very small growing agave from my sister in Cali-not very hardy at all.

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Was this from you Fred? A.Protoamericana?

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A real A.Parryi

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This was sold as A.Parryi(blue form)-not sure what it is but it looks like it wants to pass the Havardiana.

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A.Havardiana-what a beast this thing is,the inner core is fatter than a telephone pole.

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A.Americana/variegated A.Americana-

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A.Mediopicta Alba

One of my favorites.

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finish with a few jade plants----------

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Post by DesertZone » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:13 pm

Awesome garden, thanks for sharing.

The A. parryi (blue form) looks kinda like A. palmeri too me.
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Post by andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:48 pm

Some great plants there Jim. I am so in awe of your Yucca Rostrata... never seen so many leaves on a plant. Your Agaves are awesome. My guess on that Parryi blue form would be Agave Americana Expansa
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Post by hardyjim » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:03 pm

DesertZone wrote:Awesome garden, thanks for sharing.

The A. parryi (blue form) looks kinda like A. palmeri too me.

Thats a good call,I will check it a little closer against some web info/pics....thx

I was doubtful at first because of hardiness ratings but they say they grow at 3000-6000'
so that should make them pretty tough- not far off Parryi cold tolerance I would suspect.
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Post by hardyjim » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:22 pm

andym wrote:Some great plants there Jim. I am so in awe of your Yucca Rostrata... never seen so many leaves on a plant. Your Agaves are awesome. My guess on that Parryi blue form would be Agave Americana Expansa

Andy

It looks so similar to both of the ones mentioned...the one difference
I see is the pattern where the old leaves pulled away from the new/center spear.
Agave Americana Expansa has a very unique pattern on the side(edge)and if
I remember correctly,mine has more of the curved imprints of A. Palmeri

Heres a picture of it in May- 2010

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and now

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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:57 pm

Jim, your succulents keep growing.... What's a size, what's a power! Looks like some of your agaves will be blooming pretty soon!
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Post by hardyjim » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:20 am

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Jim, your succulents keep growing.... What's a size, what's a power! Looks like some of your agaves will be blooming pretty soon!

Thanks Igor!

I look all the time for a bloom-stalk on the Havardiana-it is such a beast!
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Post by andym » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:15 pm

hardyjim wrote:
igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Jim, your succulents keep growing.... What's a size, what's a power! Looks like some of your agaves will be blooming pretty soon!

Thanks Igor!

I look all the time for a bloom-stalk on the Havardiana-it is such a beast!
Hey Jim I'm amazed yours hasn't flowered. This one flowered on the Arid bed at Cotswold Garden Flowers in Badsey, Evesham at the end of May when I visited to buy ....Agaves
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Post by hardyjim » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:24 pm

Must be getting close right!
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Post by chadec » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:40 am

Love all the agaves Jim. I have to agree with desertzone on your agave id. You know I never believed it was parryi. And the place you bought it from sells palmeri too, right?

I have several agaves that died this winter coming back from root so its not suprising to see little pups pop up everywhere.

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Post by hardyjim » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:49 am

Yea...thanks...that has been kinda settled finally thanks to Aaron...
I never saw Palmeri listed then so I am not sure how it happened...he does list it now though...



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AG009: Agave palmeri (high altitude form)

Palmer's Agave is a tall, slender leaved species 48" tall by 60" wide. This selection is from seed collected at 5600 feet in the mountains. It is hardy to 10 degrees F. It may be hybridized with Agave parryi due to its close proximity, which would make it even hardier. Beautiful blue-green horizontal striations on the leaves. 2 year old plants $10.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:58 pm

Hi Jim

Big Mama is an unusually large form of Yucca 'filamentosa x elata'. The leaves are just over 3 feet in length and much wider than the normal 'filamentosa x elata' hybrid.

The other Yucca from Kory is Yucca thompsoniana x (filamentosa x elata 'Big Mama'). Kory had the Y. thompsoniana and I mailed him Y. big mama pollen.
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Post by hardyjim » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:06 am

That will be cool!
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Post by marceli » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:27 am

What about Big Mama's leaves? Do they massively wither and dry like gloriosa's leaves during cold weather and then recover very fast?
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Post by hardyjim » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:00 am

Need to ask Tim in Massachusetts about that one.
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:01 am

Incredibly beautiful Jim, especially that tenacious seedling coming through the stump.

Ah...big mamas.
Reminds me I still haven't planted mine.
IMO rostratas are at the top of the beauty list.

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Post by DesertZone » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:31 pm

Jim,

That one agave reminds me of this one.

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Post by lucky1 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:14 pm

OK, Aaron, rostratas and that one. :lol: :lol:
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Post by hardyjim » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:05 am

Aaron

I think the one agave is some form of A. Salmiana,.....
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Post by DesertZone » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:53 pm

hardyjim wrote:Aaron

I think the one agave is some form of A. Salmiana,.....
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