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Post by marceli » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:22 am

Look what I found in my mail! :)

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Thank you, Cameron! 8)

Is it wise to start germination now or better wait for Spring? I heard it grows very fast and needs a lot of sun to keep going.


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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:54 am

Marcel, I would wait until closer to the spring to start germination, since there will be a lot more sunlight and warmth. I have one seed that just germinated, but since I have quite a few other seeds, I am just trying one out now to see how it does. Good luck! :lol:
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Post by marceli » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:02 am

Well, gotta be patient so waiting for a Spring then!

Thanks again :)
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Post by hardyjim » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:54 am

Hmmm

something similar appeared here one day as well....

I guess somebody wants us all to build little ponds-lol
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:10 am

Great link here with good pics http://unusualplants.net/forums/threads ... lumbo.223/
Scroll down for the pic of transparent bucket of water.

I've got 2 ponds, one shallow and one deep (used for irrigation, so water levels fluctuate wildly)
Since water levels need to be fairly constant, I'm gonna start them in a bucket of water with clay on the bottom until I figure out how much water height variation they can handle.

Thrilled that these can handle -40C/-40F :clown:

I lose lots of fish annually to Kingfisher, Herons and Osprey. :evil:

Wonder if my blue/red light thingy would be enough light to start them now...
not my pic -->http://www.growlight.cn/144W-grow-light.asp

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Post by marceli » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:34 am

There's a river near, so I could plant some of them there, but I'm afraid they take over :lol:
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:05 am

but I'm afraid they take over
Invasive? oh oh.
But wouldn't they be all over the place already with -40 hardiness?

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:46 pm

hardyjim wrote:Hmmm

something similar appeared here one day as well....

I guess somebody wants us all to build little ponds-lol
:lol:
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Post by marceli » Wed May 21, 2014 12:44 pm

I was about to give up on them when I found out that they refuse to germinate. Few hours later one seed surprised me! :D

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Do you overwinter them outside in the pond or bring them inside for the first winter? Any tips?
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Post by hardyjim » Wed May 21, 2014 10:44 pm

I have been soaking my seeds -noticed one sprouted yesterday.
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Post by marceli » Sat May 31, 2014 1:16 am

After 10 days from germination:
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Guys, what do I do to overwinter this plant? I'm gonna plant it in container filled with 1/3 water and keep outdoor as we have hot summers.
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Post by lucky1 » Sat May 31, 2014 10:53 am

Congrats marceli.
I simply haven't had time to even think about starting mine.

Maybe Cameron will chime in here re winter.

In the meantime this may help:
http://www.colowatergardensociety.org/f ... ileA70.pdf

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Post by hardyjim » Sat May 31, 2014 2:11 pm

Mine
About 2 days to start to pop-but only if the ends are sanded enough.


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Post by marceli » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:51 am

I planted it in the mud though it wasn't easy. Here's what it looks like now, plus my reflection in the water :lol:
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The second seed were stubborn, so I gave up on it and throw it into bucket filled with water and placed in the warmest spot outdoor I have, without changing water.
After one week:
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Conclusion: water and temp needs to be very warm. Changing water everyday is not necessary.
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Post by hardyjim » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:27 pm

Looks familiar..



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Post by lucky1 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:42 am

Good work you guys.
It'll be interesting to see them develop.

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Post by hardyjim » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:09 am

old pic


see if I can take one today...they have slowed because of the cool weather.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:08 pm

Great work, everyone! Marceli, to overwinter them: as long as the corms are deep enough in the pond to avoid the ice, they should be fine. In the wild they're covered by ice for many months at a time, so I would think they could handle a similar situation at your place.
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Post by marceli » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:23 pm

This mud is not that thick and so soaked up that it's gonna freeze solid, I guess.
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Post by hardyjim » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:14 am

Cameron_z6a_N.S. wrote:Great work, everyone! Marceli, to overwinter them: as long as the corms are deep enough in the pond to avoid the ice, they should be fine. In the wild they're covered by ice for many months at a time, so I would think they could handle a similar situation at your place.

Wonder if I could just remove some water and store in a very cool basement.
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