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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 am

Good you're keeping a close eye on it Scott.


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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:54 pm

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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:44 pm

Got some new babies. I've always wanted to try Loquat outside here in Massachusetts...........here's my chance. I just received 3 seedlings via a trade.

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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:30 pm

Good addition Tim.

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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:42 pm

Hi Barb,

picking fruit of a loquat won't happen here until I go to a supermarket! :lol:

I'll keep you posted on the loquat. There is a 8 foot tall Loquat at my parents place in Rockville, Maryland (zone 7a). Pretty far north.
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:24 pm

8 foot tall Loquat at my parents place
Depending on the gender of yours, maybe you'll need its pollen?

A few years away yet...or are you going to leave it out next winter and see at what temp it dies?
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:05 pm

Tim, I remember someone on the HPS board saying that his loquat tree survived (0 F -18 C ???) with no problems last winter. I think he is in Tennessee. I've also got a few seedlings that I will eventually be trying outside.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:54 am

What I've read is that Loquat is surprisingly hardy. I'm not aware what the leathal temperature is.........we'll find out!

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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:17 am

Of course it would growing but not fruiting in your climate.
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Post by canadianplant » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:26 am

Never know Igor. A hot wall, a lucky microclimate.... Look at what tim grows now! Remember this is the dude who has eucalyptus that didnt seem to die this year!
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P. dactylifera seedling

Post by lucky1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:00 am

Started 3 months ago from "Deglet Noor" date seeds.

This one is almost 3 times as tall as its siblings.

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Can almost HEAR this grow. :shock:

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Post by TimMAz6 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:00 pm

Why is this date palm seedling leaf so much taller than the others??
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm

Wish I knew Tim.

I've never seen a palm seedling grow like this.

From the look of all the other P.dacty's, it's definitely an anomaly.
Or they're all slow.

Definitely a keeper... :D

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Post by canadianplant » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:14 pm

Seedling variation is awsome.

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:47 pm

One Brahea nitida (B. calcarea) has popped after 4 weeks.
Lousy pic but there is a shoot down into the soil.

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:21 pm

Great work, Barb. I would think that with Brahea being a desert palm, they would have a fairly long initial root.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11 am

nice Barb! You sure have a big collection of palms..............which palm is next on your list?
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Post by lucky1 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:32 pm

Thanks for the reminder, Cameron, that it's a desert palm...gotta give it what it needs.
When it warms up :lol:
which palm is next on your list?
Depends on what I manage to murder, Tim... :lol:

Still waiting for the J. chilensis to pop,
oh, and the Butia eriospatha x Syagrus F1 too.

Might have to put those in my will. :?

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:53 pm

Earlier in the winter, I put some of my six varieties of Euc seeds in containers, and left them outside to try outdoor stratification/germination. The lowest temp recorded on my deck this winter was -17 C, so it was probably a little warmer in the yard. The seeds were outside for months, and likely saw numerous lows of -14 C or lower. Today, I noticed germination of at least three species :D Here is E. crenulata:
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Post by canadianplant » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:39 am

Nice!

Mine were cold stratfied in the fridge ( a bit too cold to do it with Eucs here). THey germinated within 3 days, after 6 weeks in the fridge. 5 have made it!

You manage to get those Calla seeds to sprout? 2/5 popped so far for me!
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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:20 am

Nice germ'n with the Eucs............three types didn't germ for me.....I dry stratified the seed in the frig for 1 month then kept them in my unheated garage for another month then planted them in moist soil and placed them back in the frig for 2 weeks. Then I took them to work on my window sill. Only E. perriniana from Ducks Hole, Tasmania germed well and one Mt. Ginnii Act 1,740 m germed. It's been at least 3 weeks now. Should I place them back in the frig??

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Post by canadianplant » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:49 am

I wet stratified mine, in the germination pot, with a baggie over it. Id personally wait a few more weeks (maybe the end of the summer) to re stratify them. Never know.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:11 pm

Canadianplant, I haven't had a chance to sow the calla seeds yet! It's good to hear that you did have some Euc germination too.

Tim, I have noticed that the hardier varieties seem to need more stratification, and take longer to germinate. E. crenulata is one of the more tender species that I have (-15 C?), and it germinated the fastest. E. p. ssp. debeuzevillei, which is hardier, is only beginning to germinate now.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Fri May 04, 2012 4:25 pm

I checked all of the seeds yesterday, and it turns out that there has been germination on all Euc species! :D I'll post some pics once everything grows a bit more.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri May 04, 2012 6:46 pm

Good job Cameron! I'll be planting the seeds you sent me this weekend..........except for the takil seed which I started upon receipt. I sowed my first Yucca seeds tonight too.....MNPalms hybrid between Y. thompsoniana and my filata 'big mama' pollen.
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Post by canadianplant » Sat May 05, 2012 3:31 am

None of my Yucca seeds made it :( Thanks Tim (that isnt sarcastic FYI :D )

The bottlebrush seeds sprouted fast. Same with the Euc.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sat May 05, 2012 8:43 am

Yucca seeds didn't germ? If you need more let me know.
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Post by canadianplant » Sat May 05, 2012 11:17 am

I told you I had horrible luck with them :D If Im brave enough in the future ill let you know. Thanks :D
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Post by lucky1 » Sat May 05, 2012 2:58 pm

3 or 4 of Tim's Big Momma yucca seeds germinated for me.

Mice (or something low and crawly) ate the other ones off at the ground
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Sat May 05, 2012 7:40 pm

Tim, did the T. takil seed germinate for you yet?
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Post by TimMAz6 » Sun May 06, 2012 4:42 am

If anyone needs more yucca seed give me a PM. Got more :)

Cameron, no leaf yet on the takil seed.........I buried the seed in one of my Loquat pots. I'll keep you posted.
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Post by seedscanada » Sun May 06, 2012 8:57 pm

Tim, can you show us pictures of the different 'filata' parent plants... there were at least two different seeds.. Big Mama and another one too.
How are these seed source plants looking in their prime? Pics please with the names you've given 'em.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 am

Hi Adam

Big Mama is at this link

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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue May 08, 2012 4:39 pm

Updated pic of the E. crenulata seedlings:
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Post by TimMAz6 » Thu May 10, 2012 5:27 am

Cameron, that's a lot of seedlings!!! :shock:

Do a mass planting.........hopefully one will be clearly hardier than others.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Thu May 10, 2012 1:15 pm

That's the plan!
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Post by TimMAz6 » Thu May 10, 2012 6:12 pm

I've never tried E. crenulata.......how hardy? I may have some seeds germing now......sounds familiar.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Thu May 10, 2012 7:26 pm

Tim, I think I must have sent you some seeds with the other types. If I recall correctly, it's hardy down to somewhere around -15 C (5 F). The hardiness ratings given to me by the nursery were for small, sapling-size trees, which are tested in open fields.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Fri May 11, 2012 7:46 am

Hi Cameron,

The Euc seeds I'm germ'n this season are from Cincy Frank. The Euc seeds I received from you last season didn't germ for me. :cry:

Seedlings hardy to -15C sound good. Hopefully they will be hardier with age.
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Post by TimMAz6 » Mon May 14, 2012 6:14 pm

Hey Cameron,

I took out the Sabal minor 'McCurtain' seeds last night to germ..............funny thing is 3 already germed in the plastic baggie!!! Very cool. You didn't tell me you pre-germed the seeds. :wink:

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