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Please look at Foxtail seed cut in half

Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:07 pm

This is one of 50 seeds I've been trying to germinate for 4 weeks or so.

Would like your opinion.
Was it viable? or Dead? My only experience with palm seeds is that they DON'T germinate! :evil:

Stuff in the middle was brown and dryish, like peat moss, and the little embryo at the roundest end--while moist--doesn't seem to be doing anything.

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Post by Knnn » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:48 pm

Barb,

The endosperm is abundant & a good color. The embryo also seems well developed.
In my opinion, a good seed! (well, it was........... :lol:

I still think you will get a good germination % out of this batch 8)


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Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:16 pm

But what's all the brown fibrey stuff in the middle?
The stuff that's lying on the paper towel was scraped out of the middle "hole".

Seed anatomy pics don't show a depression--or hole--in the middle.

Your comments are very encouraging! Thank you.

At four weeks, my patience is in the red zone. :|

Husband still has all his fingers after cutting it on the bandsaw.

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Post by oppalm » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:18 pm

I'll bet you are a few weeks away from germination. Don't give up and keep the faith. Several years ago I had 4 of 5 germinate within 2 months. You're close.
Kent in Kansas
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:29 pm

Did you go crazy too while waiting? :lol:
4 of 5 germinate within 2 months
and they lived, right?

Thanks Kent.
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Post by oppalm » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:33 pm

hell yes they lived. :lol: I still have two of them. gave the others away. I'll take pictures this weekend so you can see them in all their glory.
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Post by Knnn » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:04 pm

Barb,

That void is probably just something left over from when the seed formed. Here's a cross section of a Bismarckia, it has a number of ridges.

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Post by lucky1 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:26 pm

Great pic of inside of a Bizzie seed.

I never got that far with my Bizzie seed(s) last year after pounding them with a hammer.

So that brown stuff serves no purpose for development of embryo.
Thanks!

I hope that was an old pic! :shock:
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Post by BILL MA » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:27 am

I have a bunch of sabal minors, musa velutina, and a few capitata seeds that I planted on 12/9, nothing yet.
I have sabal louisiana's soaking along with some fortunei's and sabal etonia. It seems like a long process all
ready and nothing has even happened yet. I'll be better when they start to sprout.

Keep the faith Barb!
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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:59 am

How are you keeping seeds warm? a heat mat?
My heat mat doesn't seem very warm but it should help in closed containers.

The nearby woodstove is keeping the remainder at about 80 to 90 F, a few times it's been 100F.

Waiting is the toughest part.

I couldn't resist cutting one in half to have a look. :lol:
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