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Palms, and other stuff **fixed again

Post by canadianplant » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:00 pm

So after some enabling, I decided to plant one of my trachy seedlings ( probably more soon). IT gets enough protection from the other plants around it so it hasnt gotten fried (so far). And other stuff too :D

Agave Parryi
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Trachycarpus Fortunei, or naini tal
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New triangle palm
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Colocasia
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Caster bean
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Canna, i started from seed :D
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Musa Basjoo, that was cut down 3 weeks ago
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Alocasia Odora ( I have another one )
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Russian Olive, the blue silver colour is unreal!
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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:57 pm

No pictures Jesse.
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Post by canadianplant » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:12 pm

Ya , the internet died after I posted it.... wonder why they didnt post??

Ill fix this in an hour or so..
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:29 pm

Great pics! I like those agaves :lol:
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Post by canadianplant » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:44 pm

When i took them out of the baggie, the roots were already 4 inches long... I couldnt belive it.....
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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:19 pm

Jesse those pics are great . Thanks for sharing.


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Post by TerdalFarm » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:28 pm

Jesse,
those rock!
Canna from seed--so cool.
Also loved the Agave. I need to learn so much about them.
Planting out seedlings--super. Never worked for me, but I don't have your dedication, either.
And of course the triangle palm. One of mine is in a pot, the other leaped out of its pot and so is soil planted for now. They are just such cool palms. (Clearly, must be back inside before even the Yukon gets a freeze...).
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Post by DesertZone » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:41 pm

Nice pics, thanks for sharing
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Post by TimMAz6 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:17 am

Hi Jesse,

nice plants. Is that Russian Olive the native plant we have growing along the highways around here in Massachusetts? Or is ours a different species. looks the same.
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Post by canadianplant » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:04 am

Thanks eric

Im figuring out agave are easy, almost too easy. I forgot to water them for 2 weeks, and they didnt show no signs of stress about it. And they are growing fast, faster then I expected. Your in prime territory for desert plants/mediterranian plants ( probably why your chammie does so good :D). The canna should be interesting. The mom is roseman cole, which is a yellow flower, with a red center, and the parent is either a Tropicanna Black, or Richard Wallace ( sort of like the picasso, just not as vibrant red spray on the flowers). And they grow FAST, just as fast as they do from the rhizome...

I love Triangle palms. I had one in CAlgary, that did nothing for a year before rewarding me with 4 new leaves in one summer. Then, I had to leave it there, amungst many other plants (the Philodendron selloum and P Canariensis I grew from seed :( )

Ill just have to see how the seedling handles it. IF it doesnt, I have a good 2 dozen other trachys to try. Then again, hopefuly its so close to the ground, that I can get away without heat this winter. Experimentation :evil:

Tim - Most russian olive that escaped int he states, are ususaly the common "green" species. There is also Autumn Olive, which is similar. Mine is a cultivar called "Quicksilver". They leaves on the regular RO, have the silver speckling, that gives them the sheen, But the quicksilver one, the leaves are totaly that icy grey blue colour, other then the fact ive been looking for one of these for a few years, I managed to get that Brahea blue colour in my yard!!! I want it because it fixes notrogen, and aids the growth of plants around it, namely the Phyllostachys which is a nitrogen whore....

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Post by JackLord » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:16 am

Nice! Is the olive in the ground? Looks to be, but I am not sure.

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Post by canadianplant » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:30 am

Unfortunalty, it isnt an "olea" olive and yes its in the ground. ITs called "russian olive" due to the uncanny resembelance to olea. The latin name is Elaeagnus angustifolia 'Quicksilver', same family as the gouami. My cultivar is also called "caspian", due to its habitat being around the caspian sea.

This is the closest thing I can get to a real olive in my yard. I never seen them with such a nice colour (I thought they were all green with that slight silver sheen), and i got a 6 foot tree for 17.99. I was so extatic when I seen it, I carried it the whole mile home ( I walk everywhere) with a backpack full of plants as well LOL.

I wish i could get the real olive to make it here, but I think I have a better chance with palms
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Post by hardyjim » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:01 am

Good luck with your Trachy Jesse-

rest of the stuff looks like it's coming along considering the
upside down spring this year.
Hopefully you'll get some heat for that Castor 8)
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Post by canadianplant » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:22 am

Thanks Jim, I need luck for that palm

The spring wasnt to bad this year, cept the ass backwards swing at the end of may. All the odd weather seemed to have went right around me
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Post by JackLord » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:25 pm

canadianplant wrote:Unfortunalty, it isnt an "olea" olive and yes its in the ground. ITs called "russian olive" due to the uncanny resembelance to olea. The latin name is Elaeagnus angustifolia 'Quicksilver', same family as the gouami. My cultivar is also called "caspian", due to its habitat being around the caspian sea.

This is the closest thing I can get to a real olive in my yard. I never seen them with such a nice colour (I thought they were all green with that slight silver sheen), and i got a 6 foot tree for 17.99. I was so extatic when I seen it, I carried it the whole mile home ( I walk everywhere) with a backpack full of plants as well LOL.

I wish i could get the real olive to make it here, but I think I have a better chance with palms
Nursery around here sells a hardy olive. I wonder if its the same thing you have?

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Post by sidpook » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:22 pm

Great pics thanks for sharing! Two things...
1. I have the same old man face hose sprinkler
2. Love the blooms on Russian Olives: they are delicious. Although they are soooooooo invasive. All up and down the NJ highways here
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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:55 am

Jacklord - IF im not mistakin, there is a hardy type of olea, hardy to zone 6 or 7. IF thats the one you seen, id grab it. Make sure its an Olea, not Elaeagnus as russian olive would be really invasive there....

Mike - Thanks dude LOL

We got that old man face years ago for a buck on clearance. Theres a rabbit one too. The smell from the russian olive is intoxicating. Im noticing im going outside just to catch a wiff of it LOL. Im not sure how invasive they are here, but I think im about to find out. My bosses dad started a cutting liek 30 years ago, and they said it never actualy set proper fruit, just " little wrinckled raisin things", and theirs never poped up shoots from the roots either. I do hope it fruits, I wouldnt mind having a few more of these, and mabey even sell a few. There so useful it sickning, to bad 90% of the websites out there are to get rid of it :(
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Post by sidpook » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:13 am

canadianplant wrote:Jacklord - IF im not mistakin, there is a hardy type of olea, hardy to zone 6 or 7. IF thats the one you seen, id grab it. Make sure its an Olea, not Elaeagnus as russian olive would be really invasive there....

Mike - Thanks dude LOL

We got that old man face years ago for a buck on clearance. Theres a rabbit one too. The smell from the russian olive is intoxicating. Im noticing im going outside just to catch a wiff of it LOL. Im not sure how invasive they are here, but I think im about to find out. My bosses dad started a cutting liek 30 years ago, and they said it never actualy set proper fruit, just " little wrinckled raisin things", and theirs never poped up shoots from the roots either. I do hope it fruits, I wouldnt mind having a few more of these, and mabey even sell a few. There so useful it sickning, to bad 90% of the websites out there are to get rid of it :(
Here is a link to a map where it is invasive in the States.... http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/map/elan1.htm
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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:47 am

Thanks Mike

I cant find to much info on how invasive it is here. The only mention of it being invasive in any canadian province, is southern alberta ( which, i must say, i never seen this planted in calgary that I can remember).

I should say, the states under me ( minnisota, wisconsin) say this tree is invasive there. The mild temps are a few kilometers from the lake, It wouldnt be a far stretch to say it may be invasive here. THen again, they usualy inhabit feilds and or disterbed forest, or open forest, which my area isnt. ITs matured/maturing larch, birtch, aspen/maple forest, and my city has trees that are usualy only seen in the wild down by duluth or minniapolis ( they follow the shoreline).

I think I should at least keep an eye on it, and around here to see if any pop up...
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:42 am

Well done, Jesse, your hard work is paying off with some nice specimens!

Oooh that Russian Olive is gorgeous.
I lost mine a couple of years ago due to overwatering (sprinkler zones meeting right at the tree...damn!)
Its tiny flowers had such a wonderful fragrance, very subtle, could be detected 400 feet away.
Love its blue color.

Make sure you don't eat that NainiTal when you're harvesting the (what are they?) cole crop beside it :lol:

Cool agaves.

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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:50 am

LOl, i guess thats another way of saying "cover crop"?

ITs buckwheat and Living multch, can be cut down 2 or 3 times a year for mutlch or compost innoculant....and hopefully i can get some seed! ( theres also some lilies in there, and yarrow). Beside that, are my black berries :twisted:

To bad yours didnt make it, they truely dont like lots of water ( except the first year apperantly)

the only thing is now, spidermites seeem to be everywhere :evil: I need to get a few hundred ladybugs...
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:01 pm

Maybe tie a forestry ribbon around that palm seedling (with blackberries nearby)
And try a couple of birdbaths, Jesse.
Birds will clean up spider mites too (unless you've got an outdoor cat).

Each morning I take my coffee to the patio to watch the brightly-coloured Orioles.
Their antics include hanging precariously on branches, searching for leaf rollers etc from new growth on birch and spruce.

Never been so happy that I no longer have a cat!
The sheer number of birds here blows me away.

I wish I could get birds to eat the soft-bodied scale on my palms :x

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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:26 pm

Birds arent a problem. I have a small hanging fountain, and 2 feeders. Not to mention, the read n what not we give em. Starlings, chikadees, grackles, crow, and sparrow are all over my yard, but I need a larger tree to attract more, hence the russian olive ( another use ). They seem to have got to my grape and clematis, and weigelia :x

I used a bit of soapy water, hopefully didnt kill to many beneficial insects. Hopefully when everything is in bloom things will balance out ( thats what im trying to do, let nature work itself out), but thats hard to do when i see that LOL
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:02 pm

Jack, there is a type of Olea europea hardy to zone 6, called "Eddy's Winter Wonder". If you do a search in the top corner, it will bring up the post where I mentioned it. I would buy some for myself, but the place in BC won't ship them! :evil: They said that they might ship cuttings next year though :roll:
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Post by canadianplant » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:50 pm

ahh, thanks Cameron, I know i heard it form somewhere.

Im apperantly goint on a road trip to BC in august. Looks liek itll be a plant trip. LOL
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:52 pm

canadianplant wrote:ahh, thanks Cameron, I know i heard it form somewhere.

Im apperantly goint on a road trip to BC in august. Looks liek itll be a plant trip. LOL

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:56 pm

but the place in BC won't ship them!
That sounds odd for a business.
Unless they don't have any.
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:27 am

They definitely have them, but I think they mostly deliver around the Lower Mainland. They said they're "not used to shipping things out of province" :roll: :lol:
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:43 am

They said they're "not used to shipping things out of province"
oh for heaven's sake, do they want the business or not?
What a bunch of morons!

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Post by BILL MA » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:45 am

Nice update Jesse!

I'm glad to see things are growing well for you. I can't remember did that banana go through last winter in the ground? The color on that olive is beautiful, I love foliage that looks like that.

Cool agaves!

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Post by canadianplant » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Thanks Bill, besides a minor mite attack its going quite well!

No, it didnt go through the winter. But, as soon as I manage to get this one to pup, or jsut get another ill try it. Seeing as my hibiscus made it unprotected (woot!), I think with some super deep multch, and luck I can manage to get one of them to make it one way or the other :twisted:

I think the olive is gonna end up being my favorite, even above the bamboo. I cant wait to se the growth! they can grow 6 - 10 feet a year!!!! 12 in a few cases :shock:

I thank Cameron for them, he sent the seed. And I must say, im suprised at the germination ratio of them ( concidering my record of other things). Id say 90 or 95 % !!
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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:35 am

Jesse, thanks for making us looking your plants! Good stuff! I like your agave seedlings very much! The russian olive is native to Kazakhstan. It's not invasive here but grows as a HUGE tree up to 2 meters in diameter! Would be good seeing your Fargesias. Are they OK there, in your garden?
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Post by canadianplant » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:50 pm

I made a psot recently aout my bamboo:

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Thanks Igor.... The type I have is native to the caspian sea area ( the leaf colour is different then the "regular" Russian olive.) My geography is a bit, off in your area, are you close to there? I hope it gets big here. They usualy dont live more then 15 years, mabey 20 ( thats here, but they are reletivly short lived trees). My boss had one with a foot diameter trunk, not bad! It started to die back, and she didnt know it usualy comes back after that.
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Post by canadianplant » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:02 am

Some updated pics....
Taro
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Alocasia
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Hibiscus - already 2 inches taller then when this was taken 2 says ago
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Strawberries - I have to show this, that is a small fraction from one plant... a great year
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Mandevilla - Cheap as borsh!!
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Musa Basjoo - that leaf is already unrolled
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Tracycarpus
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Fig
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Amorphophalus - much bigger now
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Caster Bean - Im going to get morning glory to grow around it
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Post by canadianplant » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:16 am

Fixed now :twisted: again
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Post by igor.glukhovtsev » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:24 am

Good ones! Thanks Jesse! P.S. Had borsch for lunch today.... :wink:
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:20 pm

Coming along very nicely!
Barb
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Post by Cameron_z6a_N.S. » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:53 pm

Great pics!
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Post by canadianplant » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:21 am

Thanks guys :D
"The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results" - einstien

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