New palms! (2nd rate sequel)

[TerdalFarm]

Bill has a fabulous thread from today with his huge new collection of ginormous palms.
I have a smaller haul of about 20 palms in small pots or bare root.
My only consolation is that the total price for these came to US$0.00.
Today's haul is:
triangle palms x2
Caryota x1 (bare root)
Washingtonia filifera x2
Brahea armata x4
Trithrinax x3
Nannarhops x1
Sabal minor x 7 (or so; field dug seedlings) + seed

Here is a photo of me grinning by the triangle palms:

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[coltrane]

Hey I didnt see any triangle palms over on Bills thread. Your one up on him.

You cant beat free. Nice palm you got there.

[lucky1]

Did I sleep through Christmas or what?

That bareroot fishtail will be fine...just get it into some good quality potting soil ASAP.
Why was it bare root? was it in cold storage? really odd this time of year.

You'll love the Triangles...really easy care, almost can neglect them but they like a bit of daily misting in a house.
They do well for me with only an East window for light.

Cant wait to see all the others individually, nice haul indeed; all great palms.

You look like a new Dad
Barb

[gpenny]

Free!!! How the heck????
Gpenny

[garryendson]

Erik,
Do you grow triangle palms in the greenhouse there?
It is not so cold hardy.

[BILL MA]

Nice Score Erik!

Free is always a good word when it comes to palm trees What I was most excited about from your list was the washies! This means your going to try again right I have no doubt that you'll be able to pull it off this time.

Bill

[TerdalFarm]

Thanks for the comments.
They have kept me busy this weekend.
I'll try to reply, and then add some new photos.
coltrane,
I have lusted after triangle palms for years but never found them for sale except online. As with you, that makes me anxious, but to be honest, I have had good experiences with online palm purchases. These two need some serious attention and if I had bought them online I'd be annoyed, but at the price I am happy!
garry,
no, I can't grow Dypsis outdoors here. Or Caryota. To be honest, I don't think I can grow Brahea, Nannorrhops, Trithrinax or Washingtonia here, either, without a lot of help. The field-dug little Sabal minor were basically a present in exchange for taking these guys off the hands of the grower.
Penny,
I don't mind embarrassing myself online but I try to keep other folks' boo-boos confidential. If you want to know the details, send me a PM and we can chat by telephone. In brief, the recession is causing a lot of problems for a lot of people (including me) and there are some opportunities out there.
Barb,
I only had a little potting soil so just the fishtail went in a pot. It was bare-root as it leaped out of its tiny 1 gallon pot and grabbed my ankles as I was loading other palms into W's station wagon: "Please, please--take me, too! Don't leave me here!" is what I heard. Its care-giver put it into a paper sack for the ride home.

The Sabal minor were field-dug from a bed where they had gone weedy. You have to love a palm that gets weedy in a solid zone 6b area (it is north of Tulsa; no urban heat effect; strong winds; colder than my farm)!

I planted four that had multiple strap leaves (example photo below) plus a few yearlings with just one strap leaf. Makes no sense, but it was satisfying to plants palms in October. The air temps this weekend were in the mid-80s with soils temps in the 70s so it just felt right. Not sure how/if to protect this first winter. Any ideas?

Here are few cell-phone snap shots:

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[lucky1]

That fishtail did the right thing grabbing onto a new owner

Nice little Sabal. Did you plant the 4 near one another (for one protection over all), or individually?
They probably won't need super winter protection, but keeping them dry will be important.
You're probably already collecting buckets to "invert".

The Washy looks pretty good despite no soil left in the pot
The flimsy pot can be cut with clippers. Doubt whether the two exposed roots are alive, but save them if you can.

Gorgeous size on that Fishtail! They sure resemble Foxtails at that age.

You can make your own wine with the Trithrinax! They like rocky gravelly soil.

Those palms are so lucky they're adopted!
You've still got summer so water away...they could also use a mild tonic of epsom salts.

Barb

[TerdalFarm]

[quote="lucky1"]

Gorgeous size on that Fishtail! They sure resemble Foxtails at that age.



Barb[/quote]

I know nothing about fishtail and foxtail palms. I thought this one was Wodyetia, but the owner said Caryota. Again, I know nothing about these. Palm id?

Epsom salts: this gets to another thread. How about a general fertilizing as well? Warm weather is in the long-term forecast!

[lucky1]

Holy cow, Erik, maybe it is a Foxtail (Wodyetia bifurcata).
Then I'd be REALLLLLLLY envious...
Scotty's got a Foxtail around that age, maybe he can tell which it is.

Anything that's going into the house before frost can get a mild fertilizer, sprinkle some epsom salts into the fertilizer water.

I wouldn't fertilize anything mid-October that's staying outdoors this winter.
Those could use Potassium (K), which is proven to improve cold tolerance...a bit....not three zones
I think Jim and Bill add something other than K, but couldn't find the post.

Barb

[TerdalFarm]

Barb,
I've done a little internet research since my last post and I'm pretty sure it is Caryota.

For in-ground palms, I did the K thing, followed a week later by Mg. It made me nervous as I have not done that before.
Palms here are still growing. Trachy in particular seem happy. My plan for now is to assume they can get what they need from the soil.

Potted palms, well, they all need help. That is what will keep me busy for the next week or so. W's potted Washy has fungus again; used H2O2 (peroxide) on soil today + sprayed chlorothanil on leaves and trunk. Is it just me or is Washingtonia the hardest palm to grow? I can practically hear Bill laughing at me being stuck with two W. filifera....

[lucky1]

There are so many types of Caryota, but I think the C.mitis has the very deeply incised leaf-ends (although when they're young, they all do!)
Time will tell, with your good care.

Perfect you followed Bills/Jims K/mg.
Nothing to be nervous about, it's not fertilizer per se.
Nitrogen this time of year is a no-no.

Glad your palms are still growing, some of mine too.
Just wait until you see that Trachy growing long after others have stopped.
Trachies love the cool weather of Fall when the sun is not so hot, and nights are cooler.
Mine's pushing two spears

You need a week to pot up 10 palms?
Heck, wish it was a short drive...I love potting stuff up (except yuccas with three foot long roots).

that potted Washy with fungus, poke a stick into the drain hole to ensure it's not plugged.
Try letting it get really dry between waterings...that and the fungicide should clear it up.

Washingtonia the hardest palm to grow

Will wait until you try to grow a Licuala

[TerdalFarm]

C. mitis is my guess for the one I potted.
As for the rest, I have dozens of old nursery pots out in a storage barn (legacy of plants gone by...) but need to make up some potting soil. I can't afford bagged soil this month but have coir bricks I'll use. Perhaps adding some vermiculite and osmocote pellets.
I was in bed when you replied but jumped up and ran outside to check the drain hole in W's potted Washy. Open, except for the roots growing out now.
I think I'll take a pass at Licuala for a decade or so.....
--Erik

[lucky1]

I was in bed when you replied but jumped up and ran outside to check the drain hole

oops, sorry.

[TerdalFarm]

No apologies needed. W took it as a sign of how much I love her!
Like when I run out to check her horses in big storms....
--Erik

[canadianplant]

Nice haul eric......

I knwo a bit abouyt caryota.... which im pretty sure it is ( you can tell by the trunk).

Caryota like highly organic soil in the ground. I think there might be 2 possibilities on the type: Mitis ( wish is the most likley), or Maxima. Im thinkin mabey maxima, due to the fact most mitis ive seen are bushier. They tend to have more leaves lower on the plant. The odds are, it was trimmed and is stressed to hell right now, so you wont really know till it starts growing a bit.

Inside they like bright light. High humidity and can be prone to spidermites and mealy bug. They hate being over watered, and yet dont like being dry between waterings. If you gie it enough light their really easy to take care of indoors, just watch for spidermites. I think they might be one of the plants sensitive to flouride as well.... id look that up if i were you....

Peace dude