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SOME ARE GONE,SOME ARE GOING AND SOME WILL LIVE

Post by hardyjim » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:16 pm

To fight again


Live to fight again-

First the dead-
All 6 of the Echinocereus tubiflora-next to it is adwarf Imbricata that has also bit it.

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Ferocactus (fish hook barrel)

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Candy barrel

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Corypantha

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This one has rotted but I think the baby is fine

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Trithrinax and Mazari are roasted but the spears refuse to pull,a lot will depent on what happens this spring


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S.louisiana pretty burnt but definitely ready for a come back! This one saw at least 0(F)

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T.tesan is still alive but desperately needs some springtime weather to save it

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Imbricata (hardy to zone 5? hmmm)showing serious rupture of cell walls and structure,most of this is dead and smells

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OVERVIEW OF MOST OF THE CACTUS GARDEN
PLENTY OF PLANTS DID JUST FINE-AGAVES,YUCCAS AND SMALLER BARRELS.


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SOME BETTER LOOKING- SURVIVORS-


Spears a little dry on this Waggie but other than that solid -


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Besides a few burnt leaves this Naini Tal looks really great with a nice green spear!


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Little hard to get to these 3 Needle,Sequoia,Butia(under trash can)and Washy.

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OVERVIEW


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HERES TO WARMER DAYS

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Post by BILL MA » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:53 pm

Jim,
Where do I start! Man you took a serious beatin :cry: Geez it still ridiculously cold there! Com'mon WTF can you have some relief anytime soon? I'm thinking I'd be blowing a 50000btu propane heater in there for 2-3 hours everyday :!: Raid all the neighbors propane bottles :D

Are all those barrels really dead? Some of them don't look all that bad. Heat them up with a mini greenhouse inside your greenhouse and see what happens :lol:

BTW if your stuff is really F'd I'll fedex you some biggies when I go back to Gary's place :wink:

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Post by Paul Ont » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:46 am

Hmm. I'll echo Bill's comments.

I do think that your C. imbricata will survive, but it may be smaller than it was last year... It did take me 3 different clones to find one that stands up to the cold/wet up here. Do you have C. kleinae? If not, I can try to send you a piece this spring if mine is still growing well:)

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Post by hardyjim » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:11 am

Thanks guys

Bill
They are not like those big santas and snowmen that you just turn the fan on and they pop back up!-LOL :shock: :cry:


They are mushy and discolored and they are dead for sure,except for the baby on the one barrel-
I will preform a rescue mission today to get it potted up,rooted and ready to go back in the ring :lol:

Today I will go through a site or two and put together a cold hardy barrel order so I can get stuff in before
they set flowers.


Yea Paul

The Imbricata has some life on it,I don't want to cut it yet,first I need to get some air circulating in there.
Whats done is done,it may be around 10(f) tonight but I think I will open 2 ends of the cover right now to keep it dry.
One layer of plastic gets a lot of condensation on it,so better cold and dry from here on out-
as I said,whats done is done at this point-It also got up to 93(f) in there yesterday(28 (f) outside) with it closed up,
this is the time of year when the temp starts to skyrocket in there and really needs to just be a rain cover.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:42 am

Jim,
lots there! In a few months you'll be enjoying the survivors fully and half forgetting the casualties.
My first impressions...
cacti and succulents: I don't know much about them but I'm watching to learn. I have a designated bed for those by my pool but haven't planted anything in it save for the Hesperaloe. A potted Yucca and cactus hold its place each Summer.
Palms: The Sabal thrilled me the most as I am thinking of adding a "Louisiana" this Spring.
I know nearly nothing about Trithrinax and Mazari, and after seeing your photos, it'll probably stay that way. :(
Your various Trachy look vastly better than mine. As Barb always says, they need wind protection as much as anything.
I am looking forward next to your Butia seeing the sun.
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Post by oppalm » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:43 am

the wintertime cold weather carnage is brutal to look at. sorry for your losses. I got a feeling you'll come back better and wiser. keep up your good work.
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Post by DesertZone » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:38 am

Your later pics sure make a person miss warmer weather. :D

Sorry about your plants! :x
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Post by serj » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:08 pm

Jim, i see some plants look very well.

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:52 am

Jim, I could cry.

Agree that you've got to keep condensation at a minimum now, especially when GH heats up so much when sun shines.
I thought you had a fan in there.
I'd open ONLY one side, the "warm side", and blow a fan from that warm side to dispel all the moisture.

The survivors give us all hope, and look not too bad.
That Naini Tal is a trooper! Hope mine comes from your stock :D

Glad the baby, which looks fab, was protected by the mom's demise.

Good to see that snow finally melting, you've had it rough.
Those summer pictures are sooooooo nice!
And it'll look like that again. :P

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Post by hardyjim » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:11 pm

Thanks for your comments everybody :lol:


Yea,plenty of stuff made it fine.
I do have a fan on the open side(the back)
blowing outside air in there.
It was closed the other day and temps outside of 30 or so produced inside temp of 93f
The fan kept it around the low 70s with the back open.
This time of year it is more about keeping them from over heating
I already have an order of flowering barrel(z5)plants ready to go so I will replace wisely :D

If this dang snow would melt a lot of this stuff could be uncovered during the day,we have had lots
of sun lately and that helps :lol:
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:37 pm

Yippeeeee, your weather sticker says you're at 32F

About bloomin' time. :D
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Post by BILL MA » Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:15 pm

By the way Jim looking at your summer pictures from last year reminds me why I got through all this aggravation over the winter to keep everything alive!
Everything will be green before we know it.

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Post by PALMETTOMAN » Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:17 pm

wow..I look upon this as the beauty of contrast..

nice job..


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Post by hardyjim » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:51 pm

Yea it's actually been in the mid 30s here but the snow isn't melting fast enough for me!

We will probably get more before it's totally gone.
The price of a pattern change in this case :evil:



At least it's been sunny :lol: 8) :D
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Post by anttisepp » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:40 am

It was so beautiful, Jim, last summer! I am very sad that many of your plants are dead.
Don't still know what picture is waiting for me when I open the covers (on Palm Sunday ;D ).
But my Cylindropuntia imbricata cv. "Uhlig"overwintered 2 times without severe damages.

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Post by hilashes » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:36 am

Hi Jim, sorry for all the losses :cry: it's nice to see the Naini Tal is still kicking, I love seeing new spears! Hope the sun is still shining for ya...your garden in the warmer season is inspiring.

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Post by hilashes » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:36 am

Hi Jim, sorry for all the losses :cry: it's nice to see the Naini Tal is still kicking, I love seeing new spears! Hope the sun is still shining for ya...your garden in the warmer season is inspiring.

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Post by hardyjim » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:06 pm

Thanks Heidi
I think it will work out for the better,going hardier and the cactus bed all nice and tidy now.
A nice bunch of hardier replacements and beautiful sunny weather.
No complaints!

Can't wait to see what this Naini Tal does this year,after going from 0-10 leaves last year
and starting this year as the healthiest of the bunch!
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