Trachycarpus Fortunei

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Trachycarpus Fortunei

Post by oppalm » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:12 am

This is a picture of one of my T Fortuneis that has overwintered in ground in my yard in Kansas , zone 6. This one has been in ground for 2 winters, no heat, just mulch and a plastic cover. It has seen 0F (-17C) at least 4 or 5 times.
I also have 2 other T Fortuneis, 2 sabal minors and a sabal palmetto that overwintered in ground last year (just 1 year in ground) . I will be working on a pictoral to show my protection method. All were planted in ground as 1 or 2 year old seedlings so they were not very big and I did not really expect 100% survival, but so far so good. Enjoy the pic.


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Kent in Kansas
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and hot in summer (usually)
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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:40 pm

Nice to see smaller Trachy`s make it through zone 6 winters.

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:05 am

Nice job Kent.
And they'll only become more hardy as they mature.
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Post by Dean W. » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:18 pm

Looks good, Kent. Great to see them surviving in zone 6. You provided mulch other than the rocks? What kind?

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Post by Knnn » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:17 am

Kent,

Good work!, that is encouraging! 8)
Did you start those from seed?


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Post by oppalm » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:17 am

Dean - I use a mulch of grass and leaves (and a plastic cover) and will be posting a pictoral of my method here on this website in just a few short weeks.

Steve - yes the ones planted in ground I grew from seed. I had a bunch germinate so I felt like what the "hey" I'll plant several in ground and see if they live. I have more that I overwinter inside, just in case I lost one of these planted in ground. They all survived, and we had a nasty winter in Jan Feb March 2008.
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and hot in summer (usually)
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Post by anttisepp » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:36 am

Very nice picture, oppalm - I'm enjoyed your palm very much!
My first winter is coming, but this summer was extremly cold.
How long frost period was in your locality?
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Post by oppalm » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:43 am

welcome antti. great to see that you joined the forum. Our average first frost date is Oct 20 , last frost date in the spring is around April 15. Our temperature ranges are about 0F to 105F (-17C to 41C) from summer to winter. Our really cold weather usually comes in January and February each year. We will usually have about 2 weeks of really cold weather sometime in mid to late January where I really worry about my outside palms. We don't get alot of snow for insulation so I build little huts over my outdoor palms. I will post pictures on this thread in the coming weeks. Any snow that we do get is usually gone within a few days as our winter temps can fluctuate quite a bit from 25F (-3C) to 50F(10C). Hope that answered your question.0
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and hot in summer (usually)
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Post by lucky1 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:33 am

Welcome anttisepp,

Yippee...another poster from overseas! :D
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Post by oppalm » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:35 am

antti - if you check back on this thread why don't you start a new thread and post pictures or do a narrative on what palms you are growing and a summary of your climate.
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and hot in summer (usually)
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Post by anttisepp » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:12 am

Thanks, Kent and Barb,
I am only beginner and hope that next spring pictures will be more interesting for us. :wink:
Nevertheless here's my "biggest Trachy": :D
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:10 pm

anttisepp, looking good.
It has more similarities to my Trachy Nainital than my Fortunei.
Interesting.

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Post by oppalm » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:27 am

looking good to me. Thats a great start. What are you going to do this winter to protect it? Whats your typical low temp for winter time?
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Post by anttisepp » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:16 am

Kent, as you I began to experiment with very small young palms.
Here's year weather in my city:
http://weather.msn.com/monthly_averages ... wc:8633458
I'll use mulching, polycarbonate screens and styrofoam shields in winter, and maybe heat cable. And, of cause, snow.
I'll take some pictures in September and will post winter and spring pictures.

Barb, I've got my Trachycarpus fortunei from "Europalms", Belgium. It seems to me this one isn't pure Fortunei, there's something from "Wagnerianus" (very rough leaves), and mabe something else...(Nanital/takil?), - you're right.

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Post by hardyjim » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:28 pm

Oppalm,looking forward to your stratiegerie :wink:
Antti,good to see you over here! :D

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Post by limoncik » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:55 am

Hello! My name is Alexander. Am there I from Crimea, to khote for you to ask how do you grow palms in the USA?

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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:53 pm

Alexander welcome. If you want to learn how to grow palms read the posts from the past 4 years almost everything has been talked about in regards to planting ,growing and protecting,fertilizing,germinating seeds,different plant hardiness zones. There are many experienced palm people who belong to this site. If you have a specific question just ask.

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Post by limoncik » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:52 pm

Well, but I also know not bad! :lol:

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Post by limoncik » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:55 pm

limoncik wrote:Well, but I also know not bad! :lol:
P.S. In general on a forum are there people which know Russian?

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:21 am

Welcome Alexander.

You and antisepp know English a lot better than any of us know Russian or Norwegian!

You live in a nice Zone for Trachycarpus palms.
Any pictures?

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Post by limoncik » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:23 am

Say, in your cities of palm plant? And for us does not plant, stereotypes, that for us maksimum can grow only cypresses and cherry-laurel. :(

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:24 pm

Trachycarpus fortunei grows well in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada with no winter protection.

Many of us live in colder areas where palms need heat and insulated covers.

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Post by Laaz » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:54 pm

Hello Alexander. You can use a translator like google to translate the text of the forum. I just looked at the settings on the forum & it is set to English only, so it will not display Russian text correctly.

Welcome to the forum.

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Post by limoncik » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:48 am

Or translator of type of this http://pereklad.online.ua/

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Post by limoncik » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:57 am

But as to insert a weather in the town in a hurrying line above? http://weather.yandex.ru/?city=33946

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Post by Laaz » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:26 am

Try this http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en you can translate a entire site or just the text of the site.

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Post by limoncik » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:34 pm

By the way here site our (Ukraine, Crimea, Russia) about growing of exotic things, true he ruskoyazychnyy http://club.wcb.ru/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=7

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Post by hardyjim » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:59 pm

I learn lot by looking pictures :smilebox: :angel9: Thanks Limoncik :lol:
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