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Not yet but that's a great idea...we actually have one here in El Dorado, I'll call tomorrow and check.

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Yeah I put them outside in their pots, I decided to push back planting anyway, it's very windy today...actually, the palms have tipped over twice, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to leave them outside until after this wind stops...

kspalmguy

Thanks! I know, I can't believe it either:) First time the extended forecast isn't showing freezing temperatures! Our average last frost is April 8...so hopefully, we won't have any hard freezes!

kspalmguy

It's finally here! The lows tonight are 33F, and all next week, lows are not supposed to drop below 36F, plus it's supposed to rain tomorrow night and Thursday.. I am planning on planting my Trachy and Butia tomorrow...my grandpa brought a truckload of cow manure to our house that we are going to ro...

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I'm looking for the best way to wrap my Washies when/if they get big, so that might just be the trick!

kspalmguy

andym wrote:I found this pic of protected palms when that recent freeze hit the southern states but can't remember where. Full marks for a fashion statement.

Hey, that might work for my Trachy/Sabals/Washies!

kspalmguy

Lol nope;) I'm still trying to find another place:P Thanks for the advice/help everyone, I really appreciate it!

kspalmguy

I did the old mason jar soil test, turns out my soil is about 10% sand and 40-50% clay...so it might be ok...if it matters, there's only one or two places in my yard that turn swampy...and they're nowhere near where I wanna plant the palm...thing is, the wisteria has grown like crazy, so I can't rea...

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Well this bums me out like no other:( Found the perfect place to plant my Trachy...this little flower bed in my backyard that my brother and I built spring of 2012...Anyway, we planted a Wisteria there that my mom is in love with...I dug up a small area in this flower bed, and just under the weed cl...

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Last question

Should I cultivate the ground with a rototiller or something before planting the palms? I also bought some of that weed preventing cloth to place under the mulch, since the washy will be planted in what is essentially a flower bed...

kspalmguy

Alright thanks! I'm really hoping my Washingtonia filibustas arrive today...lol

kspalmguy

That's a very good idea, would I want to use a heat source (lights etc) within the cardboard to keep it warm? Or as long as the spear is covered to protect from moisture, will it be ok? Sorry about all these questions by the way, I'm just trying to learn all I can. Lol

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Hmmm...interesting! And thanks for sharing! I'm gonna try a Ravenea down here in zone 6b...I know the thing probably doesn't even have a chance, but it was $15 at Lowe's in Wichita, and I just had to pick it up. I figure if I build some kind of insulated structure around it, it might just have a cha...

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Well the good news is, they grow fast:) I'm thinking about getting the Trachy outside tomorrow, it is declining rapidly in the house...if it freezes hard, I could wrap it with lights and a tarp and protect it...when is the best time to plant, early morning, noon, or late afternoon?

kspalmguy

Oh wow! Well, seems like fate here prevailed in your favor;) How tall is yours?

kspalmguy

Awesome...got some straight answers...thanks everyone, it really helps! I'm planning on planting the Washy robusta on the corner of the house, would 2 meters or so be far enough away from the house?

kspalmguy

Thanks! How deep should mulch be? And radius of mulch around trunk?

kspalmguy

Also, while we're on the topic of planting, does anyone have any good instructions on planting my palms? I've read and heard soooo many different things...I've heard to plant at surrounding soil level, and I've heard to plant above. I've heard to amend the soil with sand and I've heard not to...ther...

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Yeah, I'm gonna wait then. I'd rather have marginally healthy palms indoors for another month than dead palms in a week:P Most of the time, wind is out of the north here, and we have a large tree row north of our house. Unfortunately, living out in the country (about 30 miles from Wichita), the wind...

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Also, would a freeze (-10 to -7C) kill a Butia, or prevent it from ever fruiting? It's very unlikely, but it could very well get that cold here yet. I'm wanting to expose these plants to some cold, average lows this time of year are -4 to 2C...

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I was thinking about planting them now because they're not doing so hot inside the house...however, our last frost date average is April 11...I'm planning on planting the Trachy at the back (east side) of the house, where it'll only get morning sun. Washys will go on front (west) side of the house, ...

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teebee wrote:
kspalmguy wrote:a front could very easily push in from Canada and kill my plants...
Why is it always our fault?

Oops..sorry;) We can both blame the Arctic Circle

kspalmguy

Kansas is very unpredictable, so I'm thinking I'll heed your advice and wait...a front could very easily push in from Canada and kill my plants...I'd hate to lose them so soon! Thanks for the input everyone!

kspalmguy

Hello:) I have 6 palms (Trachy, 2 sabal minors, Butia, two Washingtonia robusta, and temperatures are supposed to be in the 60s-70s all week, with lows down to 33F or so. I'm wondering if I should go ahead and plant these palms, or wait a month or so? Any ideas? Thanks!

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Thanks for the replies!! Hopefully, with this whole global warming ordeal (or are they calling it "climate change" now?), hopefully, we won't need protection by the time these guys are huge;) Just kidding. Anyway, I like your wrapping technique! However, while they're small, I plan to use ...

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Wow, I enjoy reading everyone's replies...thanks! Zabola, lowest true temp got down to -14F, although we had a lot of sub zero temps this winter. Coldest in 30 years. In reality, in years past it would rarely get to even zero around here so always questioned the 5B zone rating we had. I was thinking...

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^^^^ Exactly! Making a major solo road trip to San Diego in May with my truck and going to be stopping at PLENTY of box stores along the way. No reason to drive back to Omaha empty! When I flew there last fall I eyeballed some Walmarts in California that had 3/4 ft tall Trachey's for $25 Not going ...

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Thanks for the link and the info!! That's good to know about the soil temps!

kspalmguy

Since it's still winter, I figured I'd ask how some of you all protect large palms. Obviously a 20 foot palm would be too large for the box method. I ask because I bought a couple W. robusta on ebay (they were cheap, alright?:P ) and I'm wondering how I'm gonna protect them when they're taller than ...

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The palms blushed when I showed them your posts;) Haha! Thanks for the feedback...I imagine I'll plant them first of April. I'm honestly surprised they haven't "palmated" (could this be a new word?

) yet, but probably soon.

kspalmguy

My Sabal McCurtains...should I plant these guys this spring or give them another year in pots? Haven't seen much growth in these, but then again, didn't really expect to:P

kspalmguy

Don't get me wrong, I love the Trachy and plan to definitely buy more, I just want to at least give some others a chance here...if they don't make it, well that's that...but if they, by some outside chance do, I'll have some nice variety;)

kspalmguy

Been two weeks now, Trachy is completely happy and healthy! Butia lost two fronds, possibly unrelated, but I doubt it...However, the remaining three fronds on the Butia are completely green except for the last couple inches on the tips, but we're pushing up three new fronds, so I have high hopes;) O...

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I learned the hard way:( Temperature dropped to 20F one night, Trachy is fine after 4 days, however, the butia is showing a lot of leaf burn, but I think it'll be ok. Live and learn:P

kspalmguy

Unfortunately, this winter has plunged most of North America to temperatures one would only expect north of the Arctic Circle...hopefully your trachy will pull through!

kspalmguy

Haha! Thanks! May not make it up to the 70s today, it's cloudy and supposed to rain tonight:/ That brings up another question, if I leave the palms out, cool (high 30's fahrenheit) rain won't hurt them, will it? Just wondering...I'd like them to get the moisture, but I don't want to encourage fungal...

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Barb, how is your CIDP doing? I'd be willing to try one of those down here in Kansas, but first, I'd like to know how they do up further north;)

kspalmguy

Past few days, the weather has been very nice for this time of year, daytime highs in the 70s and nighttime lows in the high 30s, so I have placed my potted Trachy and Butia on the back patio and left them there...anyway, last night, the temperature was forecast to drop to 33F, but instead, it dropp...

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Thanks Erik, good advice...and I'll definitely share pics!! I imagine I won't go til mid March, that way those guys can go right in the ground as soon as I get em home

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Highlander doesn't have a hitch, but we have a Ford pickup also...I'd probably want to take it:) Haha...anyway, any idea how much $$ for one of those Sabals?

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