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by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:21 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

Aaron, the first time the hemp palm was mentioned by a westener in literature was in 1712 by the German physician who served with the Dutch trading post in Nagasaki, Japan. At that time, only Dutch traders from the Dutch United East India Company where allowed to set foot on Japan territory adn Adal...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:06 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

This info will first be published in "Palms" because the test are being financed by the IPS and are done by a guy from Hamburg/Germany as a diploma thesis.
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:34 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

However the seeds you can buy here were not from that slope. They are from Nainital. But we have a saying: "Hope dies last". T. wagnerianus originally came from China to Japan probably as T. fortunei and was bred to produce smaller leaves. There is no other diference between wagnerianus un...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:33 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

Your info was read und understood but that trachycarpus from China ist neither a news species nor a new and more coldhardy form. it is just T. fortunei. The Rome in Rome is looks different from the "takils" available here now because it is different. If I mean a plant is protected then I m...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:32 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

Your info was read und understood but that trachycarpus from China ist neither a news species nor a new and more coldhardy form. it is just T. fortunei. The Rome in Rome is looks different from the "takils" available here now because it is different. If I mean a plant is protected then I m...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:42 am
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

Just because something is protected does not always mean that its seed is. The Joshua tree is protected but in most cases you can harvets the seed. And it would not be very hard to buy seed under the table in a country like India. Here in the US I can buy Takils grown from wild collected seed. You c...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:57 am
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

it is not unsual that fortunei survives such temperatures but this does not make them a separate species. Of course palm certain dealers would like them to be one..... My fortuneis here in Germany also have survived -2°F. That is northing unusual. it all depends on how early you plant them and how ...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:27 am
Forum: Cold Hardy Palms
Topic: New discovery for Trachycarpus species?
Replies: 8
Views: 7081

if you are looking for cold hardy Trachycarpus than you have to take fortunei. it is the hardiest species within that genus. Manipur/Naga hills/Ukhrulense is not that coldhardy as it comes from a climate which hardly sees any frost and if there is frost is ist not lower than -3°C It comes from Nort...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:21 am
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

in America nurseries still sell T. wagnerianus (has small fans) as T. takil. That is because some 40 years ago a well-known palm magazine in the US showed a picture of a wagnerianus which was labelled as T. takil. And nurseries somethimes are notoriously sticking to false names. The same happens her...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:04 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

I do not know of any hybridized takils. And if they are takil x fortunei hybrids then these hybrids should me less coldhardy than fortunei. True takil has not survived in Italy north of Rome but Fortunei grwos happily and is self reproductive several hundreds km to the north in the Italian and Swiss...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:25 pm
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

That pic was taken in Rome and it show the only ture Takil that exists in Europe or elsewhere outside of India. it was grown from seeds by the italian Botanist O. Beccari in 1887 who reportedly got the seeds from Mt. Takil (Thalkedar) in Kumoan, india. All other Takils grown from the original batch ...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:33 am
Forum: Cold Hardy Palms
Topic: Sexing a takil
Replies: 3
Views: 6150

no, that´s not what I´m saying. However, the chance to get a palm with female inflorecence is higher if it is well established and well fed and watered. There is no difference in this with takil and fortunei. By the way I personally believe that the "takils" that grow here nowadays are f...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:44 am
Forum: Cold Hardy Palms
Topic: Trachycarpus Takil for sale 2ft-10ft of trunk
Replies: 3
Views: 5455

Takil with 10 ft of trunk?

very intresting. Where do you get them from? Direkt import from Kumaon, India? Or do you mean T. wagnerianus which in the United States is often mixed up with T. Takil. I say it clearly: there are no true T. takils in Europe or America having trunks of 10 ft. There are olny a rew specimens of that h...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:38 am
Forum: Cold Hardy Palms
Topic: Sexing a takil
Replies: 3
Views: 6150

sexing a trachycarpus

no, I do not know of any way to tell the sex of a juvenile trachycarpus before it produces flowers stalks. However, even if it produces flowers for the first time this does not necessarily mean that it keeps this sex. Trachycarpus (fortunei) can produce male flowers first and after having establishe...
by Arnold, Cologne Germany
Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:11 am
Forum: Photo Gallery
Topic: Fortunei leaf and Takil leaf
Replies: 25
Views: 22053

"Takil" leaves

Macario, where did you get the first photo from? This is definitely MY picture and it is MY fortunei and MY hand and that pic. And it is as I already mentioned NOT a T. takil. It is in fact a T. fortunei x wagnerianus and this picture proves that the asymetric hastula is NOT a Takil trait. It isn´t...